D&D 5E Wizard's Presents is coming August 18th


Buried in this massive mtg info drop (which reveals the 4 Warhammer Deck names, pr3view cards, some stuff about Double Masters 2022, and Dominaria United like DU getting Jumpstart Boosters, and the fact that Achemy Horizons: Baldur's Gate is getting 250+ cards), is that August 18th is Wizards Presents, where they detail upcoming stuff for 2023 and beyond, but like MtG presents sort of stuff from previous years, it will have D&D and other none MtG announcements as well, not just MtG announcements.
 

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Buried in this massive mtg info drop (which reveals the 4 Warhammer Deck names, pr3view cards, some stuff about Double Masters 2022, and Dominaria United like DU getting Jumpstart Boosters, and the fact that Achemy Horizons: Baldur's Gate is getting 250+ cards), is that August 18th is Wizards Presents, where they detail upcoming stuff for 2023 and beyond, but like MtG presents sort of stuff from previous years, it will have D&D and other none MtG announcements as well, not just MtG announcements.
Well, August 16th is when Spelljammer releases, so this is about when they will want to start showing off the Dragonlance battle game and Adventure. It would also be a good time to roll out a Magic Setting, if they are rolling that out as a wildcard this year.
 

Well, August 16th is when Spelljammer releases, so this is about when they will want to start showing off the Dragonlance battle game and Adventure. It would also be a good time to roll out a Magic Setting, if they are rolling that out as a wildcard this year.

We might get more then just DL at Wizards Presents if Wizards Presents is this years MtG showcase, but for all of Wizards products and not just MtG.

We might learn what new and returning settings are coming next year & less likely 2024.

I'm really curious what Marathon Epilog is too. I think its tied to the new serting arc starting in Dominaria United.

I also wish Set Jumpstart Boosters had started with AFR or earlier, way more fun then Theme Boosters (although I did pull a Gold Span Dragon from a red Kaldheim theme booster).

I also expect it will have more D&D Honor Amoung Thieves and BG3 news.

Maybe they will through everyone for a loop and announce they are buying Games Workshop.
 






I cannot think of a possibly worse timeline.

Why?

Hasbro should start from zero with its own sci-fi franchise. Its marketing strategy is focused into family-friendly brands, and W40K is too Grimmdark.

"Hasbro" might be mostly family friendly, but WotC and Eone have a much broader product range then Hasbro. Darksun, Ravenloft, Amonkhet, 4e FR, Planescape, all and more can be as dark or darker and more adult then 40k. 40k might not fit Hasbro to a t, but it does it WotC to a t.
 


like it or hate it the two companies i doubt could put out each others products without major tonal shifts

I think your absolutely wrong about that, WotC already does Grimdark/Horror products, from the Book of Vile Darkness, to Darksun, Paul S Kemp novels, Amonkhet, Ravenloft, Innistrad, and GW does campy stuff like blood bowl. I think this is part of the point of the 40k Commander Decks and Secret Lairs, to prove they can do GW stuff right.
 

Now Hasbro is too happy with the licence of Star Wars than working with their own IP. If they wanted they could publish something with a tone closer to young adult audience, but my opinion is Hasbro is betting for family-friendy franchises because they youngest generations can start before, these can be "captivated" before.

* I had forgotten the idea of W40K as skins in Fortnite.
 



Scribe

Hero
Why?



"Hasbro" might be mostly family friendly, but WotC and Eone have a much broader product range then Hasbro. Darksun, Ravenloft, Amonkhet, 4e FR, Planescape, all and more can be as dark or darker and more adult then 40k. 40k might not fit Hasbro to a t, but it does it WotC to a t.
None of those reach the absurdity of 40K and no, I wouldn't trust WotC to leave things alone at all.

Wizards has a very different customer base, and that base is excessively vocal on twitter. Them purchasing GW would be absolutely awful.

games workshop buying D&D?
I think rules is actually what GW does worse, and new settings (AoS was so bad on release...) that that would also be terrible, but at least 40K would be safe from being sanitized...
 

SAVeira

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GW is worth roughly 3 billion, WotC generate what a billion per year, its a massive purchase yes, but Hasbro can afford it yes.
Given some of the current market forecasts I have been hearing about GW, they might be looking for a buyer. There is some concern that their sales and revenue has peak or is peaking. Hasbro could organize the funding for a buyout extremely easy, if they thought there was value in acquiring GW to them. However, that is question: just cause they could, does that mean they would?
 

Scribe

Hero
Given some of the current market forecasts I have been hearing about GW, they might be looking for a buyer. There is some concern that their sales and revenue has peak or is peaking. Hasbro could organize the funding for a buyout extremely easy, if they thought there was value in acquiring GW to them. However, that is question: just cause they could, does that mean they would?
I do believe that a crunch is coming up, it will be interesting to see how their HH 2nd edition makes out, and 10th isn't too far away for 40K either.

I believe their approach to the rules/game side is holding them back, or will prevent as much growth as they could have, but they are still doing good things in other areas.
 

I do believe that a crunch is coming up
when economies are bad movie theaters do good... why, becuse when you are broke and need a bit of entertainment you go to the movies.... the same is true for board/card games normally.
2end of 2019 into early 2020 was a HUGE kick in the pants to the economy and Hasbro did amazing for it (WotC in particular) I can't imagine that D&D would have the growth it did without a mix of 'down economy' 'noone leaving there house' 'game streams' 'virtual tables' and 'amazon ships direct'

so I don;t think (and GOD I hope hasbro/WotC realizes this) the rpg boom is going to continue forever.
 

I have said several times in my opinion the strategy by Hasbro is to use the brands for different types of products. This is known as "multimedia franchise". For example Ravenloft wouldn't be only new sourcebooks or modules, but gothic novels for young adults, and maybe some supernatural romance, any survival horror videogame, or that (Risibilos dark lord) Doedorn's dummy who says to be the true Strand von Zarovich as skin in Fortnite (it is a idea so fool than it may be possible).
 


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