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[Nahat Anoj]

Hmm ... I wonder what the most powerful metallic dragon is now, gold or adamantine. Actually, I wonder if they are even going that route any more - maybe the dragon colors are all roughly equal in power.

It's weird for me to think that there could be a good red dragon ...

 

[JohnSnow]

Hmm ... I wonder what the most powerful metallic dragon is now, gold or adamantine. Actually, I wonder if they are even going that route any more - maybe the dragon colors are all roughly equal in power.

It's weird for me to think that there could be a good red dragon ...

I kinda like it. But then I was on the verge of houseruling dragons anyway. I like people having to rely on local reports to know what a dragon's breath weapon and personality is, rather than having it all predetermined based on color.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

I imagine Dragons will be generally unaligned like most "ordinary" PC races. Since if Dragons are entirely sentient-beings they should be able to develop their own personality. Though like ordinary PC races I imagine each type of Dragon would have certain "dominant personality traits" so a Red Dragon could have less-wholesome personality traits when compared to say a Gold, but not necessarily evil.

 

[Zaruthustran]

Love, just LOVE everything from wartorn's post. Especially the bits about the undead--that "animus" concept is how I've houseruled undead for quite some time now.

I like the dragons, too, especially the removal of brass & bronze and the addition of iron dragon. But adamantine dragon? No thanks. I'd much rather they did the excellent suggestion of a Mercury dragon. The Adamantine dragon does indeed seem like simply a dragon that's more "iron" than an Iron Dragon. So now we're back to the whole brass & bronze similarity...

 

[I'm A Banana]

Iffy. I was a HUGE fan of the 3e dragon set-up, and I think we might loose some of the cool dragon schticks: brass dragons being loquacious and wind-based, clever trickster copper dragons being able to build entire canyons, bronze dragon's fascination with humanity and their coastal habitat and fog-based powers....

They could have used some simplification, but really.....

Cookie-cutter monsters bore me. If you don't hit the three points of Ally, Adversary, and Anybody, you're not so much a piece of the world as you are a piece of game mechanics with a name attached. YAWN.

 

[Oldtimer]

This [the Far Realm] reminds me of "The Lost Vault of Tsathzar Rho" from the DCC line of adventures.

...which was written by... Michael Mearls!

 

[Blackwind]

I'm surprised they didn't include...

Steel Dragon.

Now that would be METAL.

 

[Cam Banks]

What? No brass or bronze dragons?

Well, looks like I'll have to make those up for myself if I'm going to write up some Dragonlance 4e conversion notes. Sheesh.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[TwinBahamut]

I was never a big fan of chromatic and metallic dragons, but I guess that they are going to stick around in D&D for a while longer. Oh well, as long as they aren't all absurd spellcasters anymore, it is an improvement.

On the specifics, though, I approve of Iron Dragons. It is so obvious that I am surprised it did not occur from the beginning. The image of a dull black dragon whose scales are slowly fading to a blood red rust color at the edges... I hope they are as cool-looking as that. I am willing to bet that if any of the metallics other than Golds are fire-breathers, it will be the Iron Dragons.

I agree with the idea that Adamantine Dragons don't sound like a good idea. Mercurial Dragons sound like a much better concept, if you ask me. Mercury is an underused metal in D&D. We got every kind of Golem imaginable, including absurd things that should have been oozes or undead instead, but never a Mercury Golem?

I also like the sound of the Shadow Power Source, so long as its flavor is designed better than it was in the Tome of Magic. I never really liked that section of that book, and a lot of that has to do with the overly intrusive to campaigns flavor they gave Shadow magic. I would prefer it more if it resembles the shadow powers from the videogame Odin Sphere (a great game for D&D to steal ideas from if I have ever seen one).

 

[Professor Phobos]

Mercury golems would be cool- all liquid metal killing machines like the T-1000...