WotC Delays New D&D Book Announcement

This from WotC — “Get the quasits out of our office! Our plan to make a D&D book announcement on Thursday has been changed. Adventurers, mark your calendars for Monday, January 13.”

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The book was due to be announced on Thursday 9th January after a mysterious entry appeared on Amazon with a product title of "Dungeons & Dragons March Release Book (Title announced January 9th)" and a release date of March 17th, 2020. See the original news item here:
They haven't given a reason; back in November WotC delayed the launch of the sapphire D&D anniversary dice at the last minute, too.
 
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gyor

Legend
Maybe not, @gyor is a Critter, I believe, and this format could bode well for the future of the Forgotten Realms, frankly.
I'm not a critter (although I did back the cartoon kickstarter for $1), BUT I'm also not disappointed because I knew a critical role setting was coming since Exandia was mention in BG: DiA. I did not know it would be now, because WotC layed some misleading clues as to what this book was going to be, but I have said Exandia was coming. You all thought I was MAD because it was Tal Dorei was released by another company, but I was right!!! I win!!!

It does set up some weirdness as to what counts as D&D setting within Exandia and how it relates to Pillars of Eternity.

There does seems to be some interesting Player content potentially too.

Hey I wanted a Campaign Setting, I just wanted FR first. This could be interesting anyways.

It also explains why we did not see the Player content being UAed, it would have given the setting away and the designing was likely at least partly done by Critical Role not just WotC.
 

Parmandur

Legend
I'm not a critter (although I did back the cartoon kickstarter for $1), BUT I'm also not disappointed because I knew a critical role setting was coming since Exandia was mention in BG: DiA. I did not know it would be now, because WotC layed some misleading clues as to what this book was going to be, but I have said Exandia was coming. You all thought I was MAD because it was Tal Dorei was released by another company, but I was right!!! I win!!!

It does set up some weirdness as to what counts as D&D setting within Exandia and how it relates to Pillars of Eternity.

There does seems to be some interesting Player content potentially too.

Hey I wanted a Campaign Setting, I just wanted FR first. This could be interesting anyways.

It also explains why we did not see the Player content being UAed, it would have given the setting away and the designing was likely at least partly done by Critical Role not just WotC.
Yeah, they were laying the hints down, particularly in the big marketing survey last year.
 

Parmandur

Legend
It also explains why we did not see the Player content being UAed, it would have given the setting away and the designing was likely at least partly done by Critical Role not just WotC.
Thinking on this, though: maybe we have gotten Exandria material in UA since September, after all? Maybe not all of it: they haven't finished collecting feedback on the last UA, but...it would be a quick turnaround for Class material, historically, but it's possible some of the weird Subclasses have been Dunamancy related all along, and the Class options would fit well in a book they can reasonably expect to sell so well as this.

The Gunslinger or Blood Hunter have been vetted for years, and could end up in here. Putting any fun related see tuff in this book would be a golden opportunity.
 

gyor

Legend
Yeah, they were laying the hints down, particularly in the big marketing survey last year.
Yeah they straight up mentioned Exandia as a setting while leaving off more traditional D&D Settings, and they mentioned the Bloodhunter. I don't know if the Bloodhunter made it into this book, the blurb didn't mention it, so it might now have sadly, but it's still possible it's in there. I hope so.
 

Parmandur

Legend
Yeah they straight up mentioned Exandia as a setting while leaving off more traditional D&D Settings, and they mentioned the Bloodhunter. I don't know if the Bloodhunter made it into this book, the blurb didn't mention it, so it might now have sadly, but it's still possible it's in there. I hope so.
We'll find out details soon...
 

Burnside

Explorer
I kinda feel like from an image perspective WoTC D&D doesn’t need to publish a class where you get magic powers from cutting yourself. Just my two cents.
 

gyor

Legend
I kinda feel like from an image perspective WoTC D&D doesn’t need to publish a class where you get magic powers from cutting yourself. Just my two cents.
I don't think a D&D class is going to encourage self mutiliation, that seems silly.
 

Burnside

Explorer
I don't think a D&D class is going to encourage self mutiliation, that seems silly.
Of course it is. D&D also didn’t encourage devil worship either, but that didn’t stop a huge moral panic. If I’m Hasbro, I take a look at this class, take a look at the history of this game, and say, “No thank you.”

Aside from that, the mechanics of the version that Mercer put out previously are very bad. Bloodhunters are required to inflict damage on themselves to activate powers that are equivalent to what other classes can do with no such sacrifice.
 

vincegetorix

Jewel of the North
Of course it is. D&D also didn’t encourage devil worship either, but that didn’t stop a huge moral panic. If I’m Hasbro, I take a look at this class, take a look at the history of this game, and say, “No thank you.”

Aside from that, the mechanics of the version that Mercer put out previously are very bad. Bloodhunters are required to inflict damage on themselves to activate powers that are equivalent to what other classes can do with no such sacrifice.
This. Mercer's designs are often off. The blood drain feature for a little more damage and the exploding guns of the gunslinger while doing less than a basic battlemaster are weird and overly punitive. There's also the cobalt soul that cost a boat load of ki points for thing other class can do for free. Most of them would benefit from being polished by the official design team.
 

gyor

Legend
This. Mercer's designs are often off. The blood drain feature for a little more damage and the exploding guns of the gunslinger while doing less than a basic battlemaster are weird and overly punitive. There's also the cobalt soul that cost a boat load of ki points for thing other class can do for free. Most of them would benefit from being polished by the official design team.
I'm sure it all got polished by the WotC team.
 
Yeah, I just reread the Blood Hunter and asked myself "why would I even play this?". I don't mind the concept, quite the opposite really, but I prefer my classes with working maths behind them.
 

gyor

Legend
Yeah, I just reread the Blood Hunter and asked myself "why would I even play this?". I don't mind the concept, quite the opposite really, but I prefer my classes with working maths behind them.
So WotC polishes it, I like the Blood Hunter flavour, it deserves to have it's mechanics polished.
 

Parmandur

Legend
So WotC polishes it, I like the Blood Hunter flavour, it deserves to have it's mechanics polished.
Yeah, the big thing is that we know the Blood Hunter is popular in D&D Beyond and the DMs Guild, warts and all. WotC probably has detailed numbers. I wouldn't put giving it a big polish release past them...
 

gyor

Legend
Yeah, the big thing is that we know the Blood Hunter is popular in D&D Beyond and the DMs Guild, warts and all. WotC probably has detailed numbers. I wouldn't put giving it a big polish release past them...
How do we know that? I'm not doubting you on this, just curious where you are getting your Intel?
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I love Matt Mercer and CR is fun...but I'm really disappointed in this. We now have two Campaign Settings that no one asked for (Ravinica and now Wildemount) while fan favorites like Planescape, Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and heck, everything in FR that isn't the Sword Coast or Chult have had no official support at all.
Lots of folks asked for both.
They do, with multiple shows. None have caught on to the degree that Critical Role has (Dice Camera Action had a respectable, but still much smaller following than CR before it flamed out due to cast controversy last year). It goes to show that it’s not so easy to do what Mercer & company do in terms of capturing the imagination of an audience.
Acquisitions Inc is definitely comparable in fandom, with a ton of overlap. Especially the C Team.
 

Parmandur

Legend
We now have two Campaign Settings that no one asked for (Ravinica and now Wildemount) while fan favorites like Planescape, Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and heck, everything in FR that isn't the Sword
I'm pretty sure that is the opposite of the case: the number of people who wanted and asked for D&D in Ravnica for over 15 years, and Critters, are going to far outnumber old Setting diehards.
 

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