D&D 5E WotC has updated the Hadozee glide ability on DnDBeyond

[Retreater]

Well, not via DND Beyond, you won’t. Give it a little time and I’m sure it’ll appear on WotC’s errata page as free as all the other errata documents.

And when DND Beyond becomes the only official source for D&D content, I guess we're out of luck if we don't buy from them?

 

[HammerMan]

The glide was in the UA, they definitely saw people pointing out the issue in the feedback. I truly don't get why they kept the same in the book just to fix it after release.

So do you think they are not responding to feedback?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I assume it has to do with the re ent thread closures.

I'm really confused. Isn't it just published errata? Someone PM me about it, then, because I really, REALLY don't understand what's going on.

EDIT: After reading the last page, I figured it out. I feel a bit thick, but then, I'm surprised that it became such a touchy subject that we're not even allowed to mention it long enough to say "they changed THAT bit" (with the THAT spoken aloud).

I mean, I would think that it's one thing to start up a discussion on it again, and another thing to mention that it has been noticed by WotC and changed on D&D Beyond. Ah well. I understand now, at any rate.

 

[cbwjm]

As pointed out in this thread from people who purchased their books not on DND Beyond, you don't get the errata for free.

Well no, I'm one of those that pointed that out. Unless they add the errata to the sage advice page which is free, people with the physical books won't have it. I was responding to a comment about the oneDnD playtest that someone brought up which doesn't require any money to be spent to access on DNDbeyond, just an account which is free.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Wait you have to pay for errata ?!?!! Wtf?!?

that is annoying... and a leaves a bad taste in my mouth

This is a strange circumstance. Normally they wait to make any changes to their official books until I believe the end of the year and then they announce all of the errata, update D&D Beyond, and order new printings of the books with these new versions.

However, for some reason, they decided to do errata earlier. It might be because of the topic that must not be named, or they just saw that everyone was making fun of the Hadozee mechanics for over two weeks and decided to rush out a new errata. Presumably, the other processes that they usually take with errata were ignored and will be followed as usual at the end of the year.

That's the only way to get "One" D&D.
Darned subscription service.

You . . . you don't have to pay for a D&D Beyond subscription in order to get access to the One D&D documents/surveys. You know that, right? Or are you objecting to the service existing in the first place, even though the thing you're complaining about is free.

Look, I think we're all glad that the gliding language was fixed, at least for some customers, but whose bright idea was it to be that way in the first place? What were they thinking? And why aren't they talking about the gliding errata at all? As originally written it was incredibly broken. Who's responsible for it? How did nobody catch how broken the gliding was?

They based it on the Simic Hybrid's Manta Glide but decided to increase its effectiveness by 300% for some reason. I don't know how they missed how it interacts with High Jumps, that's definitely something they should have caught. And I'm guessing they're not trying to draw attention to this errata because a) they normally change more than just a single part of a single book when doing errata and b) they don't want to bring attention to the other thing they changed.

The glide was in the UA, they definitely saw people pointing out the issue in the feedback. I truly don't get why they kept the same in the book just to fix it after release.

I don't know about that. I participated and lurked in quite a few discussions about the Spelljammer UA, and no one that I saw found the interaction with jumping back then. I'm guessing that the official release drew more attention to the broken mechanic than the playtest did.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Nice. Errata for mechanics released two weeks ago.
Got a lot of faith in the design team at Wizards.

Given that I pointed out the problem with this ability not only in this UA feedback*, but in the feedback for the Simic Hybrid's similar ability years ago, it does make you wonder if they bother to read the comments!


*And I'm sure I wasn't the only person to do so.

 

[overgeeked]

Glide. When you fall at least 10 feet above the ground, you can use your reaction to extend your skin membranes to glide horizontally a number of feet equal to your walking speed, and you take 0 damage from the fall. You determine the direction of the glide.

For reference, here's the old one.

Glide. If you are not incapacitated or wearing heavy armor, you can extend your skin membranes and glide. When you do so, you can perform the following aerial
maneuvers:
• You can move up to 5 feet horizontally for every 1 foot you descend in the air, at no movement cost to you.
• When you would take damage from a fall, you can use your reaction to reduce the fall’s damage to 0.

Trouble I see with this is that no matter how far above the ground you are, you only get to glide a total of your walking speed. That doesn't work at all. Removing the armor restriction is also odd. Might just have to stick with the original and talk to players about not cheesing it. At least the original made sense in the fiction. All they had to do was clarify some kind of descent speed.

 

[dave2008]

No, you do not have to pay for errata. They will issue a free eratta update at some future time, like they have the whole of 5e. Probably waiting to find more errors. You can get them here: Book Updates

They have obviously provided the update early for digital copies which is a nice bonus. Be upset that their is an error, but not that their willing to fix it IMO.

Wait you have to pay for errata ?!?!! Wtf?!?

I have been trying to find the free errata, are we sure we have to pay for it?

 

[dave2008]

god that would be the worst thing they could do,

Why? Wouldn't it be worse to not provide it at all. Just an FYI, WotC took a lot of heat in 4e for constantly issuing errata. They adopted the current approach (fewer errata updates) based on their experience with 4e.

 

[dave2008]

God this entire new edition has sapped any energy I have for d&d

I imagine it is less the edition and more the hanging out on message boards. 1e / BECMI was a hot mess but I didn't have any internet fans to tell me how awful it was so I loved it in my ignorance!

 

[dave2008]

As pointed out in this thread from people who purchased their books not on DND Beyond, you don't get the errata for free.

Actually you did get it for fee, when the errata document comes out like it always has for this edition. This is just a nice bonus. Why do people hate it when they try to improve things!?

 

[Ixal]

What was the problem with the original glide anyway? Too much math? That in 5E you fall a unlimited distance in a single turn instead of there being a cap so they would be able to move a huge distance in a single turn? (the 1:5 conversion was a bit much).

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

What was the problem with the original glide anyway? Too much math? That in 5E you fall a unlimited distance in a single turn instead of there being a cap so they would be able to move a huge distance in a single turn? (the 1:5 conversion was a bit much).

It was that you could jump 30 times in a turn and effectively have a 150 foot move speed at level 1.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I'm really confused. Isn't it just published errata? Someone PM me about it, then, because I really, REALLY don't understand what's going on.

This is a strange circumstance. Normally they wait to make any changes to their official books until I believe the end of the year and then they announce all of the errata, update D&D Beyond, and order new printings of the books with these new versions.

However, for some reason, they decided to do errata earlier. It might be because of the topic that must not be named, or they just saw that everyone was making fun of the Hadozee mechanics for over two weeks and decided to rush out a new errata. Presumably, the other processes that they usually take with errata were ignored and will be followed as usual at the end of the year.

the thing is, why not just put it out in normal errata, put it on the website and sing from the roof tops "Hey that thing no one likes, we have a fix"

 

[Retreater]

Well no, I'm one of those that pointed that out. Unless they add the errata to the sage advice page which is free, people with the physical books won't have it. I was responding to a comment about the oneDnD playtest that someone brought up which doesn't require any money to be spent to access on DNDbeyond, just an account which is free.

Sorry. I thought you were quoting my talking about the errata. I have a free account and got the playtest material.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

No, you do not have to pay for errata. They will issue a free eratta update at some future time, like they have the whole of 5e. Probably waiting to find more errors. You can get them here: Book Updates

They have obviously provided the update early for digital copies which is a nice bonus. Be upset that their is an error, but not that their willing to fix it IMO.

so why do people with beyond matter more then those of us that bought physical books? do you think that;s the message they want to send "Hey thanks for buying the book, BUT here if you bought it this otheryou would get fixes... ones we were alerted to in playtest"

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Why? Wouldn't it be worse to not provide it at all.

becuse right now you have people saying "I paid on beyond so trust me it's fixed, but you can't access the fix unless you pay"

Just an FYI, WotC took a lot of heat in 4e for constantly issuing errata.

again... that was free. I would not want errata every 5 weeks, but I also don't want to pay to get it... they need something to send it for free.

They adopted the current approach (fewer errata updates) based on their experience with 4e.

and made it WORSE... right now I only have "Trust me it's fixed even though you can't see it"

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Actually you did get it for fee, when the errata document comes out like it always has for this edition. This is just a nice bonus. Why do people hate it when they try to improve things!?

it isn't an improvement for some people to have access to fix, and others either don't, or have to just trust 3rd party non WotC employees to deliver the fix

 

[Remathilis]

Hey WotC, bite the bullet and release the new hadozee with the lore and glide change for free on D&D Beyond. You'll lose $1.99 in sales and gain a lot of goodwill by making those changes free to everyone with the race in the char generator as mea culpa.

 

[Cadence]

Looks like a reasonable change to me. I guess it means that if you fall the maximum distance in a round (500 feet?) then you "only" go 30 feet outward (which is mostly straight down) but you take no damage, which is a little weird, but it's such a corner case that I wouldn't worry about it. It's better than you going, what's the old rule? 5 feet per? So under the old rule, you'd glide 2500 feet out in that round. This is definitely an improvement.

It just feels odd to not have a maximum descending distance if that's the concern. (I'm picturing flying squirrels and lizards, don't they often get from tree to tree that are farther than 30' apart? Can they now drop 1000' in a round, within 30' of where they started, with no damage - or did I misread?)