WotC will do what you say for 5 years. What are your instructions?

Shiroiken

Adventurer
Decide which settings they want to keep in house (most likely Realms, Eberron, and Ravnica), then allow original designers the option to update their settings for 5E either as 3PP or on DMs Guild. In the case of Greyhawk, I'd probably ask Rob Kurtz or one of Gygax's children to take up the project. Campaigns are an iffy proposition for WotC, as they seldom sell as well as primary products.

Wizards would continue to print Adventures in settings kept in house or given generic settings. APs seem to be winners for WotC, so no reason to topple the apple cart. One new mechanics/crunch book per year tops. Keeping the bloat down has been fantastic so far, and I'd like that to continue.
 
Why do you hate what they are currently doing?
A) WotC has a habit of "updating" their products in a way that makes previous products obsolete. This may be great for their wallets in the short-term, but it irritates the fan-base and drives many away from RPG's as a whole, damaging the wider industry.

B) They are already weaning off all their RPGs and focusing heavily on Magic. D&D is now the only RPG they still produce. Others have been discontinued over the past 5 years. If they follow their previous patterns, they will drop D&D as soon as sales begin to slip a little. Not even a lot, just a little.

C) The sort of terms they offered retailers (until just recently) have been horrific. In essence, if you want the best deals they offer, you turn your store into a WotC franchise in all but name, and the benefits of this were some of the worst in the industry. When WotC announced they are no longer doing direct-to-retail sales, FLGS owners nation-wide breathed a sigh of relief, especially those who had been economically enslaved by the CCG trade.

D) (And this one is purely personal), Hasbro bought the highly successful Heroscape game and put it under WotC control. After two months of delays, stalls, and outright lies to the bulk of the rather passionate player community, they announced the game was cancelled. Soon after, it's parts appeared as expansions in a couple of others. They thought that player interest would shift over to these poor-selling games. They were wrong. Those games died too.

Overall, WotC's business model is reminiscent of a Wall Street speculator who's going for the high-turnover fast cash regardless of how damaging that can be to the long-term health of the market. The best thing they can do for the RPG industry is finish their slow, grinding withdrawal from it and let other companies carry on in their place.
 

Xenonnonex

Adventurer
A) WotC has a habit of "updating" their products in a way that makes previous products obsolete. This may be great for their wallets in the short-term, but it irritates the fan-base and drives many away from RPG's as a whole, damaging the wider industry.
Your first point and your already wrong. Wizards have said time and again gamers can use their old products in concert with their new ones. Driving away fans could not be further from the truth. In fact more fans than ever are playing 5e. And hopefully other RPGs.

It is good to share opinions. Making stuff up just because you want to live in a fantasy is really stupid.

No profanity please. Also, calling others “stupid” isn’t exactly constructive or supporting of civil discourse.
 
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Sacrosanct

Slayer of Keraptis
Your first point and your already wrong. Wizards have said time and again gamers can use their old products in concert with their new ones. Driving away fans could not be further from the truth. In fact more fans than ever are playing 5e. And hopefully other RPGs.

It is good to share opinions. Making stuff up just because you want to live in a fantasy is really stupid.
Yeah, that threw me off a bit. 3.5 was an update to 3e, and I believe you could use your 3e stuff (like adventures, splat books, etc) in 3.5 And wasn't essentials an update to 4e, and you could use your 4e stuff with essentials?

I didn't really play much of either edition, but that was my impression anyway.

Please don’t quote profanity.
 
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Xenonnonex

Adventurer
A) WotC has a habit of "updating" their products in a way that makes previous products obsolete. This may be great for their wallets in the short-term, but it irritates the fan-base and drives many away from RPG's as a whole, damaging the wider industry.

B) They are already weaning off all their RPGs and focusing heavily on Magic. D&D is now the only RPG they still produce. Others have been discontinued over the past 5 years. If they follow their previous patterns, they will drop D&D as soon as sales begin to slip a little. Not even a lot, just a little.

C) The sort of terms they offered retailers (until just recently) have been horrific. In essence, if you want the best deals they offer, you turn your store into a WotC franchise in all but name, and the benefits of this were some of the worst in the industry. When WotC announced they are no longer doing direct-to-retail sales, FLGS owners nation-wide breathed a sigh of relief, especially those who had been economically enslaved by the CCG trade.

D) (And this one is purely personal), Hasbro bought the highly successful Heroscape game and put it under WotC control. After two months of delays, stalls, and outright lies to the bulk of the rather passionate player community, they announced the game was cancelled. Soon after, it's parts appeared as expansions in a couple of others. They thought that player interest would shift over to these poor-selling games. They were wrong. Those games died too.

Overall, WotC's business model is reminiscent of a Wall Street speculator who's going for the high-turnover fast cash regardless of how damaging that can be to the long-term health of the market. The best thing they can do for the RPG industry is finish their slow, grinding withdrawal from it and let other companies carry on in their place.
Is Wizards policing your game? Are they kicking down your door and demanding that you only play with their most recent products?
 

Raith5

Adventurer
I think they do a better job than I would.

But personally I would like to see a loose series of adventures released (like in 1e) and a tactical options rulebook which really pushes the 5e framework as far as it can go with regards to further options for martial characters and monsters in particular.
 
Your first point and your already wrong. Wizards have said time and again gamers can use their old products in concert with their new ones. Driving away fans could not be further from the truth. In fact more fans than ever are playing 5e. And hopefully other RPGs.

It is good to share opinions. Making stuff up just because you want to live in a fantasy is really stupid.
Wow, okay. Nice way to have a civilized talk there.
WotC lied. Shocking, I know. Conversion from 2e to 3e was huge ass-pain, 3.5e to 4e doable but uncomfortable. 4e to 5e is easy breezy, but a day late and a dollar short.
Yes, more fans that ever are playing 5e because 5e actually works, its a better game than the versions before it, and RPGs are back in-fashion.
But there was a huge loss when 3e came out that has only just started to ease back into the game because 5e has a reputation of being the closest yet to "real" D&D as they know it.

And if you don't like my answers, maybe you shouldn't have asked.

Quoting profanity? Don’t do it.
 
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Sacrosanct

Slayer of Keraptis
Wow, okay. Nice way to have a civilized talk there.
WotC lied. Shocking, I know. Conversion from 2e to 3e was huge ass-pain, 3.5e to 4e doable but uncomfortable. 4e to 5e is easy breezy, but a day late and a dollar short.
Yes, more fans that ever are playing 5e because 5e actually works, its a better game than the versions before it, and RPGs are back in-fashion.
But there was a huge loss when 3e came out that has only just started to ease back into the game because 5e has a reputation of being the closest yet to "real" D&D as they know it.

And if you don't like my answers, maybe you shouldn't have asked.
Wait, maybe I'm confused. He/she asked what you hated that they were currently doing, and you brought up the edition changes from 2e to 3e and 3e to 4e not being backwards compatible. Something from 19 and 11 years ago respectively. As a current issue?
 

Xenonnonex

Adventurer
Wow, okay. Nice way to have a civilized talk there.
WotC lied. Shocking, I know. Conversion from 2e to 3e was huge ass-pain, 3.5e to 4e doable but uncomfortable. 4e to 5e is easy breezy, but a day late and a dollar short.
Yes, more fans that ever are playing 5e because 5e actually works, its a better game than the versions before it, and RPGs are back in-fashion.
But there was a huge loss when 3e came out that has only just started to ease back into the game because 5e has a reputation of being the closest yet to "real" D&D as they know it.

And if you don't like my answers, maybe you shouldn't have asked.
Again, good that you shared opinions. But making shit up is not doing you any favors. And do you know what a rhetorical question is?

Please tell us how Wizards lied? Please tell us how that is making their products obsolete? Your not just using mechanics. Your still using the lore. In fact Wizards have been saying to continue using their lore. In fact one of the reasons why they have not released a ton of setting material is because they have said that the public can keep using their past lore. That is really a frigging funny way of making their products obsolete.
A change in mechanics is a natural progression in an edition change. If you do not like the change in edition play the edition your happy with. No one is demanding you to stop how you play.

And which is it? Are they driving fans away from rpgs or are rpgs back in fashion?
 
Wait, maybe I'm confused. He/she asked what you hated that they were currently doing, and you brought up the edition changes from 2e to 3e and 3e to 4e not being backwards compatible. Something from 19 and 11 years ago respectively. As a current issue?
Yes. When the damage is still affecting today's market, it is still a current issue.
We were asked for opinions, I offered. They wanted explanations, I gave them.
Heaven forbid somebody sees opinion that is not all flag-waving pro-WotC.
Fine, fine, I'll just shut the fudge up about it.

No profanity, please.
 
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ccs

39th lv DM
5 years of me being in charge huh?
Am I in charge of WoTC? Or WotC making D&D? And can I be ousted....

1st things 1st, I'm going to give myself a healthy raise & a nice exist package. :)

Some things that I'll do after that for the rest of you:

1) Collect & republish all the monsters whose stats have only appeared in the modules as a MM2 volume. Flesh it out as needed for a healthy page count.
Revisit this about 2-3 years later for MM3.

2) Hey, you know that other great game we publish? MTG? Guess what? It's getting a dedicated pure D&D block! It's going to be fully legal in all the formats.
I toy with the idea of making it Eternal {note: I do not know if this is already a MTG term. If it is then I'll find a new name} - meaning that while the set itself might go out of print, the cards will remain in all the formats (past/present/& whatever we cook up in the future) forever.

3) We have an extensive back catalog of RPGs & board games. Guess what? Other than stuff for the current edition of D&D, all MTG cards, & any stuff we don't have the rights to any longer (Ex; The Marvel superhero game I'd assume), it's all going up as cheap PDFs with Print on demand options.
You want your favorite issue of Dragon Magazine? Here you go. You want the third supplement for Gamma World 3rd ed? How about the complete 4e collection? Every D&D Companion set module? How about those great (or not so great) Avalon Hill board games? (for games that had unique plastic components 3d files will be included) You want it? Here it is.
Of course we reserve the rights to reprint any of this stuff, but in the meantime if we can make another $ off of it....

4) D&D turns 50! in 2024.
You're getting 6e & a year long celebration! Al kinds of great stuff. But don't panic. 6E will be backwards compatible with 5e. But it'll be cleaned up, improved upon, & will generally encourage, not force, you to upgrade.
This might be when you see the D&D MTG set I mentioned. Though I've been wanting & waiting for that to happen for so many years I might get it out before then....

5) Speaking of Magic.... Can you believe it turns 30 in 2023? I've got something in mind for them as well.
 

Sacrosanct

Slayer of Keraptis
Yes. When the damage is still affecting today's market, it is still a current issue.
We were asked for opinions, I offered. They wanted explanations, I gave them.
Heaven forbid somebody sees opinion that is not all flag-waving pro-WotC.
Fine, fine, I'll just shut the fudge up about it.
What damage is still affecting today's market?

And stop with the hyperbolic victimhood, it's not helping the conversation.

If you see profanity, please don’t quote it. More work for your mods, it is.
 
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