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Your Thoughts on the Matrix Revolutions?

I really liked the first two movies, and I really liked this one. But
I feel stupid for not understanding the ending. What did Neo do? The movie just suddenly seemed to tidy itself up and end. I was left with, huh? It was like a handwave to finish the plot. What did I miss?

Quasqueton
 

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Quasqueton said:
I really liked the first two movies, and I really liked this one. But
I feel stupid for not understanding the ending. What did Neo do? The movie just suddenly seemed to tidy itself up and end. I was left with, huh? It was like a handwave to finish the plot. What did I miss?

Quasqueton

Neo let Smith "assimilate" him so that he was essentially inside Smith. Then he destroyed himself and all the Smiths.

Starman
 

Quasqueton said:
I really liked the first two movies, and I really liked this one. But
I feel stupid for not understanding the ending. What did Neo do? The movie just suddenly seemed to tidy itself up and end. I was left with, huh? It was like a handwave to finish the plot. What did I miss?

Quasqueton

No, you're absolutely right. It was a hand wave.

Phantom Menace had better plot.

No, I'm not a "hater," and both 2 and 3 were interesting in a "spectacle" kind of way-- but I'm not afraid to call 'em like I see 'em. The Wachowski's were too clever for their own good and dangled more threads than they could handle.

Now I have to scrub Matrix 2 AND 3 out of my head to be left with the perfection and satisfaction of Matrix 1-- a movie that needed no sequel. The original Matrix is diminished by 2 and 3 in the same way that the original Star Wars trilogy is dimished by TPM and AoTC.

Wulf
 

Hmm, I was entertained, but I am highly disappointed in the way it ended. I can't believe you people are satisfied with that as a conclusion. Namely
that we are left in almost the same position that the first movie began in. The majority of the human race are being used as energy slaves for an enslaving robot master race. Sure the robots are going to let anyone who isn't satisfied with the matrix out. How many people actually didn't believe the illusion of the matrix. Not that many. Even if they get let out. What then? They get to try to survive somehow in the machine dominated world. Probably still trapped in Zion.
People are still slaves.
Those who aren't are essentially cockroaches in the machine society.
That is pretty sucky and essentially exactly the same way these movies started out.
There is essentially no resolvement of the driving conflict to the story.
If Smith being out of control was the problem, then yes we have a conclusion, but he wasn't the main problem.
I also thought that the last scene against Smith was totally a Dragon Ball Z fight. I kept waiting for one of them to start screaming about how incredible their power level. Then they would have started lobbing energy blasts around.

There also were quite a few loose ends.
What about the food as code.
Was the oracle programming Neo? He refused her candy in this one.
I was entertained, but very disappointed. I give the Matrix 9/10, Reloaded 8/10, Revolutions 7/10. The original movie on its own is better then the trilogy. Wulf Ratbane is right the sequals bring the original down.
 

I didn't care for this one. Let me try this spoiler thang

Okay A piece of plexiglass on the Mechs might have save a few pilots lives or at least let them live longer.
Nit picky things but it just irritates me. They can make hovering ships and guns that shoot lightning but apparently they have no idea how to sew a shirt.

The idea of rogue programs and the Mirovigan and such was actually the coolest thing in the second movie (the twins), they were never in this one.

For those of you who didn't "understand" the end, I'll join you. Its like they ran out of money 5 minutes before the movie actually ended.

What I liked-- The ship flying through the tunnel to Zion was cool. The mechs were neat, I also did like how they had to be reloaded.

What I really hated
The fight at the end- I HATE Dragonball Z, this felt like that. I was waiting for a spirit bomb.

3 out of 10 for me. Wish I had gone and seen Alien instead.
 

I was pretty dissappointed by it, actually.

It was all action and virtually no substance (yes, you can rationalize the "hand-waves", and some people here are doing a very good job of it, but the reality is that the movie was riddled with plenty of glaring ones, though the pseudo-philosophical tone of the films lends itself to passing them off as features rather than bugs), but the action was nowhere near as good as in the first two. Not a single scene that even came close to the Morpheus rescue or the Neo/Smith fight in the original, or the freeway sequence in Reloaded - frankly, the Zion battle scene was boring in comparison (woo-hoo, 30 minutes of people shooting guns at unfeeling robots that keep on coming anyway). When I go to see a Matrix movie, I want to at least see some excellent martial arts choreography , not a blurry and computer generated Neo and Smith doing a (as someone aptly pointed out) a Dragonball-Z act.

Combine the above with the fact that the nothing was resolved, little was explained, interesting characters like the Merovingian hardly played a part, and it really becomes a bit of a turkey. Not a bad movie, but not nearly as good the second one, and crap compared to the original Matrix.

It made it very obvious that there was never any kind of larger story beyond the first film (Wachowskis seem to have caught the George Lucas disease, there) and that the first movie is much better left standing on its own merits...
 
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Quasqueton said:
I really liked the first two movies, and I really liked this one. But
I feel stupid for not understanding the ending. What did Neo do? The movie just suddenly seemed to tidy itself up and end. I was left with, huh? It was like a handwave to finish the plot. What did I miss?

Quasqueton

It looked like he did what the Architect told him to do at the end of Reloaded, entering the source and rebooting the Matrix. This time, however, he allowed Smith to assimilate him before the reboot took place, destroying him as well (thus making sure Smith didn't carry over to the next version). Since Neo was in the Machine City, he entered the source through there, rather then through the Architect's area inside of the Matrix.
 

That was cool.

Now we see what the Matrix Online has to say about it... (that's the MMORPG currently in development, set after Revolutions). There may be interesting things there...

I am a little disappointed that
there was no new layer of reality revealed, nor was Neo's 'broadcast' ability adequately explained. Sure, he's touched the Source. That doesn't explain how he can do what he does... unless he's psychic. Which implies disturbing things about the sophistication of the machine intelligences. It also explains his early visions of his last journey.

Why is everyone so down on DragonBallZ, though? Is it perhaps that there's a better show about people who have that kind of power? (Let's forget the slow plot and the adolescent dialogue and the fact that the combat is culturally influenced.) Superman has never fought that desperately, and he's the only other character I can think of who's that powerful.

Perhaps it's just that people haven't thought through what it really means to be able to move with a thought. If Neo has that level of power, that's how it's going to get used. If you don't want him acting realistically... well, don't give him that power.

Anyway, I'd rate the film as a spectacle, not a brainmelter like the first. It's proved some things can be done, some things I'd be very excited to see used for certain other properties. It's about very brave people, which in a way is a flaw -
I think it might have had more emotional resonance if just one character had hid under a bed screaming at one point, those Sentinels can't be too endearing to watch. I think that could be why Two Towers was awesome, despite being essentially the same. Don't fret, they're both films about big battles, people being convinced to do things, solitary journeys - it's just that Revolutions wasn't quite as human in regards to cowardice.
And it's expanded on a world that could be very interesting to interact with down the trail.

Oh yes - early on I found myself wondering why everyone looks so impassive when they enter a lift. It's like they have a Standard Elevator Pose that they assume. Is that good battle tactics, or just the actors?

Overall, though, I wasn't disappointed. Like certain anime, there was a lot in there not spelt out for you, and figuring out what it means is half the fun. Is spoonfed plot important? Maybe for some, but I don't really care for it... I like a movie that lasts after I've left the cinema.

To echo a previous poster: don't wait through the credits, there's no final reward. The music's cool, though.
 

Personally I didn't find the ending confuseing or anything like that, but the hand wave as people have been calling it rather irritated me, to put it into terms the cencor won't pick up. It almost seemed like the two brothers got a bad case of writers block when working on the final scene, only instead of working their way through it they almost adopted a philosophy of

"well, we have their money anyhow, and it's not like we're makeing another one so... HA HA! Thanks for giveing us enough money to retire off of."

Appart from the last 5 minutes however the movie was a spectacular visual feast. I loved the Zion battle, and I've never seen Dragonball Z so I can't really say the Neo/Smith fight was too much like that, sure it was over the top but these are basically two demigods kicking the crap out of each other, of course it will get ugly. It was cirtanly better than that "Burley Brawl" in Reloaded. I do wish Merovingian played a bigger part. I really liked his character in Reloaded but on a whole, with a different ending I'd probably be going to see it again tommorow, as it stands I might watch it again once it hits the cheep theaters.
 

I loved it. I got the ending. I was satisfied with the ending.
I knew the humans weren't going to outright defeat the machines,
that much couldn't have been more obvious from the last movie if they slapped you in the face with it.

Anyone that thought the fight was silly must have thought the same of the horde fight in the last movie too.
Which is too bad, I thought they were both quite entertaining.

Does it seem to anyone else that the ending leaves an opening for something more?
That entices me more than disappoints...

Silly spoiler tags. Why back in my day, I went to the movie before reading the durn threads... ;)
 
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