D&D (2024) You're not planning on getting 2024 D&D? Why is that?

[Faolyn]

In addition to what I picked (have Level Up and other games, plus WotC being WotC), there's also Other: It's not enough of a new edition to warrant spending, what, $150? on new books.

 

[MoonSong]

Speaking personally I'm not going to run 5.5e but of enough other people run it I'll end up playing it whether I like it or not since playing with my friends is more important than playing my favorite system.

I'm on the opposite side. I might eventually run 5.5 -for profit-, but I'm not interested at all as a player.

 

[Maxperson]

Why not? They could but they won't isn't the same as they can't.

Money. Older editions don't make much money.

 

[Maxperson]

no you are not, they also do not need a 100% conversion rate. 60-70% will do just fine, and I see no reason that they will not get that

Will it do just fine? Hasbro rides WotC hard to make a lot of money with D&D. Losing 30-40% of your customers isn't ideal for that.

 

[MoonSong]

In addition to what I picked (have Level Up and other games, plus WotC being WotC), there's also Other: It's not enough of a new edition to warrant spending, what, $150? on new books.

It is in an odd spot, isn't it? Too similar, yet too different in a bad way. It changes too much and too little. No -or few- actual changes I'd like, while making plenty of changes I don't like. I was planning to buy the DMG because of the Greyhawk stuff, but I'm no hurry. I have the original boxed set and the gazetteer as pdfs. I want a physical book, but not that badly.

As a DM, I find it frustrating to adjudicate. As a player, I don't like depending on a DM's whims for being abl to make characters I like.

Edit: And since I'm doubly a WotC customer, I'm doubly exposed to their corporate shenanigans. Anything I buy from them is despite them, not because of them.

 

[mamba]

Don't see a new default system for my bubble on the horizon. I think there'll be more people like us in the future. 5.5e won't be quite as strong of a default as 5e (how many 5e people 5.5 converts is an open question but have seen literally ZERO people going "I quit 5e but 5.5e is dragging me back" and it's not like 5.5e has much room to grow in terms of RPG market share) and veteran players tend to bounce between games more than newbies.

if 2024 stems off the decline of 5e for another 5 years or so, it probably was worth it to WotC. If it fails to do so or even initiates it then obviously not.

I too believe that 5e is pretty close to its peak, whether past or just ahead remains to be seen

I think we might have a new age of Fantasy Heartbreakers with a bigger and bigger wave of disgruntled 5e players making their own D&D-inspired games. 90% will probably suck, but the remaining 10% are going to have some glorious naughty word.

there definitely are people getting tired with it an 5e-likes popping up, just look at DC20 or Nimble 5e. I am not sure I expect much from then though, I am more interested in what more seasoned designers have to offer (Weird Wizard, 13th Age 2e, Draw Steel) or some games a bit farther away from 5e (Savage World, Talisman Adventures)

 

[mamba]

Will it do just fine? Hasbro rides WotC hard to make a lot of money with D&D. Losing 30-40% of your customers isn't ideal for that.

they are not lost, they stick mostly with 2014 and are customers for the same additional books. That is the upside of compatibility, with a jump from 3e to 4e they would be lost

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

Holy @Micah Sweet sock puppet!!!!!!

Hey @Micah Sweet! I hope you know I'm poking fun in a brotherly way at your love of Level Up! It does look like an interesting system... I've posted before that I've scanned it and it looks interesting... a bit too expensive to ship to my neck of the woods though.

 

[Faolyn]

It is in an odd spot, isn't it? Too similar, yet too different in a bad way. It changes too much and too little. No -or few- actual changes I'd like, while making plenty of changes I don't like. I was planning to buy the DMG because of the Greyhawk stuff, but I'm no hurry. I have the original boxed set and the gazetteer as pdfs. I want a physical book, but not that badly.

As a DM, I find it frustrating to adjudicate. As a player, I don't like depending on a DM's whims for being abl to make characters I like.

Edit: And since I'm doubly a WotC customer, I'm doubly exposed to their corporate shenanigans. Anything I buy from them is despite them, not because of them.

Yeah, I was seriously on the fence before all of WotC's shenanigans. I went from 2e to 3e to 5e. I didn't buy 3.x for the same reason--it just wasn't different enough (I was buying Dragon Magazine and S&S's Ravenloft books so I could see what some of the changes were--they didn't excite me). I wanted my next edition of D&D to be as different as any of those edition jumps.

 

[MichaelSomething]

Yeah, I was seriously on the fence before all of WotC's shenanigans. I went from 2e to 3e to 5e. I didn't buy 3.x for the same reason--it just wasn't different enough (I was buying Dragon Magazine and S&S's Ravenloft books so I could see what some of the changes were--they didn't excite me). I wanted my next edition of D&D to be as different as any of those edition jumps.

Then go try 4E. That's plenty different!!!