DOCTOR WHO: "Deep Breath" (SPOILERS)

Umbran

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Re. Missy -- I think she's the Master. After all that "is it time for a female Doctor?" discussion last year, changing the Master's gender would be a bit of an acknowledgement of that.

One fanciful idea I've heard is that she is... kind of like the Valeyard. But instead of being a summation of the Doctor's negative aspects, she's his mistakes - and thus "Missy". This ties in with his, 'I've made some mistakes..." line.
 

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Morrus

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One fanciful idea I've heard is that she is... kind of like the Valeyard. But instead of being a summation of the Doctor's negative aspects, she's his mistakes - and thus "Missy". This ties in with his, 'I've made some mistakes..." line.

That doesn't appeal to me. I never really liked the idea of the Valeyard, and doing it again but slightly different would irk me.

I'm hoping for a female Master. While the Rani is kind of that, I think changing the Master's gender would be a clever move on their part. They've mentioned a Time Lords like the Corsair changing gender, but it would be a strong precedent to actually do it for a major existing character.
 

I wasn't really all that impressed with the writing of this episode. However, the acting, particularly by Capaldi, was quite good.

It's a testament to Capaldi's acting chops that, during the episode, you could see the previous Doctors coming through in Capaldi's movements and mannerisms.
 

Re: Missy

I think its pretty obvious, she refereed to the Doctor as her boyfriend, and when Clara gets the phone call from the Doctor, The Doctor says, who is it your boyfriend, or something like that, so Missy is obviously Clara from the future or an alternate timeline or something, who else would know about impossible girl, or the T.A.R.D.I.S.'s phone number?
 

Umbran

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Re: Missy

I think its pretty obvious, she refereed to the Doctor as her boyfriend, and when Clara gets the phone call from the Doctor, The Doctor says, who is it your boyfriend, or something like that, so Missy is obviously Clara from the future or an alternate timeline or something, who else would know about impossible girl, or the T.A.R.D.I.S.'s phone number?

Who else would know? Well, the TARDIS itself, for one. It is sentient, and has manifested as a female aspect in the past. River Song is another. I suspect any Time Lord can figure out how to reach the phone in the Doctor's TARDIS easily - and anyone who has studied the Doctor enough to recognize there's this young woman popping up in his timeline repeatedly saving him will figure out her importance. So, again, any Time Lord, or anyone with a lot of information.

The question is who can do it - that can be hand-waved. The question is *why*. Why try to keep Clara and the Doctor together? Find the answer to why, and that will tell you who.
 
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Morrus

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Craploads of people have the TARDIS phone number. Churchill, random Egyptian queens without phones, Martha, UNIT... I suspect it's listed given how popular it is.
 

MarkB

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There's one possibility I'm surprised nobody's suggested yet for Missy: A Time Lady who could very well have survived Gallifrey's time-lock, on account of having been in a different universe when we last saw her, and who spent enough time as the Doctor's close companion that she'd certainly have a reasonable claim on calling him her boyfriend.

Romana.
 


Janx

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There's one possibility I'm surprised nobody's suggested yet for Missy: A Time Lady who could very well have survived Gallifrey's time-lock, on account of having been in a different universe when we last saw her, and who spent enough time as the Doctor's close companion that she'd certainly have a reasonable claim on calling him her boyfriend.

Romana.

I don't know who Rani is, but having read the Douglas Adams book featuring Romana, that's who i assumed it might be.

I never really watched pre-Ecleston Who, so I'm only vaguely familar with Tom Baker (guy with long scarf), and that first doctor with his grand-daughter.
 

Morrus

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I don't know who Rani is, but having read the Douglas Adams book featuring Romana, that's who i assumed it might be.

I never really watched pre-Ecleston Who, so I'm only vaguely familar with Tom Baker (guy with long scarf), and that first doctor with his grand-daughter.

She was a recurring villain, a renegade time lord like the Master. She also featured a T-Rex in one ep, which was growing abnormally. She was responsible for killing the 6th Doctor (Colin Baker), making him regenerate into the 7th (Sylvester McCoy).
 

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