AaronOfBarbaria
Adventurer
You forgot to add "...for me."There most assuredly is "an issue".
You forgot to add "...for me."There most assuredly is "an issue".
In a relatively quiet dungeon, a creature wearing plate armor (which doesn't clank as much as some people think, but that's another topic) turns invisible and walks away on the stone floor as his footsteps echo down the hall.
Versus a wizard in robes during a fight is during a torrential thunderstorm. Wind is howling, thunder booms constantly and the wizard 50 feet away at the top of a battlement. He turns invisible and flies away on a broom. Does anyone know where he went? Why?
I still don't see what the confusion is. The rules make perfect sense to me, and my players have never complained about them or disagreed with them.
I can understand that some people don't immediately intuit the difference between invisible and hidden, but once that part has been clarified, there's no issue.
My players sometimes forget this and wonder why their invisibility isn't as effective as it should be. Then they remember it's raining... (and if they don't know what the in-game weather's doing then they haven't been listening, as I always narrate it)There is a person shaped hole in the rain pattern. Probably kind of hard to miss, I think.
Which is surprising given how many other situations in which a "Passive Stealth" type of thing would come up:The rules don't have a "Passive Stealth" for when you are hard to notice but haven't actively tried to hide your location. The rules seem to assume your location is immediately apparent even if you can't be seen.
You forgot to add "...for me."
There is a person shaped hole in the rain pattern. Probably kind of hard to miss, I think.
If there were "objectively" an issue, everyone would be experiencing it. Some of us aren't, which means the issue is subjective....no, there objectively is an issue...
Ah, but you're forgetting that the wizard is INVISIBLE. Meaning that you can see straight through him & see the rain on the other side.
Maybe if you roll really well on a perception check or such you'll notice some sort of distortion.
A rule does not have to impact every single gamer for it to be an issue, don't be preposterous.If there were "objectively" an issue, everyone would be experiencing it. Some of us aren't, which means the issue is subjective.