Star Trek Picard extended Comic-Con trailer

[Derren]

Yes, a few days ago, but I haven't found a suitable replacement that I could edit in.

There are official videos from Amazon or CBS (although the latter one with a bit of talkshow content in the beginning).
So if you do not mind a company logo in the corner you can use them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhBBXHwEsIo

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

The first time we encounter the Borg, they are indeed a force of nature, and the core of the story is the conflict between Q and Picard.
The second time the Borg are already given a face eventually with Locutus, but a big part of the conflict is between Riker and Shelby's rivalry and their ability to eventually overcome it.
The third time the Borg also get a more relatable face with Hugh, but of course he's not representing a collective, but someone that got free of it, and it's about Picard overcoming his hatred of the Borg.
The fourth time it's actually more about the relationship between Data and Lore.
The fifth time it is a lot about Picard again overcoming his anger and hatred of the Borg, and the Borg are getting a face with the Queen. In some ways the story is actually retreating a character development that already happened in the series, but we're okay with it because it has some good action and drama and the Data/Queen/Picard is pretty good, coupled with great special effects.


EDIT:

If you need a Trailer, I can't link to it directly, but this one from Patrick Stewarts Twitter seems to be internationally viewable: https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/stat...434/star-trek-picard-trailer-patrick-stewart/

 

[Umbran]

People had previously spoken to the overall "Borg Consciousness" when interacting with them, so I don't know why they couldn't have done so again.

The second time the Borg are already given a face eventually with Locutus, but a big part of the conflict is between Riker and Shelby's rivalry and their ability to eventually overcome it.

(from Memory Alpha)
"The character of Locutus was created as a result of the writing staff of Star Trek: The Next Generation feeling it necessary for the Borg to have a spokesman, which the writing staffers referred to as a "queen bee." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages) Another inspiration on the character's creation, according to writer Michael Piller, was that the writing staff was requested by Paramount to devise a method of potentially writing Picard actor Patrick Stewart out of the series after the third season. This was because Paramount was having negotiating difficulties regarding closing a deal with Stewart that would see him return for the fourth season. (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 1, Issue 23, p. 16) "

Setting aside the contract negotiation issues...

I think we see here a repeating theme. Folks are correct that, yeah, you could have a character speak to the collective as a whole. But, we are also talking about the mass market here, and maybe cinematographically speaking, that doesn't play well. Your audience is made of humans, and they are used to interactions with concrete individuals. Locutus and the Queen seem to be there because, however it may play as a story to some folks, more broadly the audience may not get it if you don't have a face for the collective.

Heck, the Borg *tell us* this is necessary, in Best of Both Worlds, Part 1:

BORG: Death is irrelevant. Your archaic cultures are authority driven. To facilitate our introduction into your societies, it has been decided that a human voice will speak for us in all communications. You have been chosen to be that voice.

The Borg recognize that the humans need a face to talk to.

 

[Ryujin]

(from Memory Alpha)
"The character of Locutus was created as a result of the writing staff of Star Trek: The Next Generation feeling it necessary for the Borg to have a spokesman, which the writing staffers referred to as a "queen bee." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages) Another inspiration on the character's creation, according to writer Michael Piller, was that the writing staff was requested by Paramount to devise a method of potentially writing Picard actor Patrick Stewart out of the series after the third season. This was because Paramount was having negotiating difficulties regarding closing a deal with Stewart that would see him return for the fourth season. (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 1, Issue 23, p. 16) "

Setting aside the contract negotiation issues...

I think we see here a repeating theme. Folks are correct that, yeah, you could have a character speak to the collective as a whole. But, we are also talking about the mass market here, and maybe cinematographically speaking, that doesn't play well. Your audience is made of humans, and they are used to interactions with concrete individuals. Locutus and the Queen seem to be there because, however it may play as a story to some folks, more broadly the audience may not get it if you don't have a face for the collective.

Heck, the Borg *tell us* this is necessary, in Best of Both Worlds, Part 1:

BORG: Death is irrelevant. Your archaic cultures are authority driven. To facilitate our introduction into your societies, it has been decided that a human voice will speak for us in all communications. You have been chosen to be that voice.

The Borg recognize that the humans need a face to talk to.

Yeah , I both remember and get that but I could wish for something different that the old memes, couldn't I?

 

[MarkB]

There are official videos from Amazon or CBS (although the latter one with a bit of talkshow content in the beginning).
So if you do not mind a company logo in the corner you can use them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhBBXHwEsIo

Thanks - updated.

 

[Janx]

I saw an interview with the picard cast today, and spiner slipped that the body in the drawer is B4's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAEcycivP4w

 

[CapnZapp]

Hypothetical, and effectively a non-falsifiable "no true Scotsman", as you can simply identify anyone who doesn't or can't do it the way you want it as not a "better writer".

Nope.

You're the expert on fallacies, Umbran, you tell me what this one's called:

You're asked to share your opinion, but you interpret it as a challenge to provide scientific proof.

In other words, I see you bringing up quotes, and business data and whatnot.

What I don't see, however, is you doing one of two things:
a) simply agreement: "yeah, shame about how they crapped all over the Borg"

or

b) disagreement: "nope, I personally think the Borg got better by having a Queen, and here are my top three argument as to why"

The closest you come is "it's inevitable". That's still distanced and logical, and not really sharing an opinion you could then be held to.

But you do you. Have a nice day. Myself, I think I've made my own opinion abundantly clear, so I'm outta here.

 

[Derren]

I saw an interview with the picard cast today, and spiner slipped that the body in the drawer is B4's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAEcycivP4w

Was that ever in doubt?
I read some speculation that the end of the trailer is on a holodeck. That would also explain why he doesn't want the game to end as that would likely mean the end of the program.

 

[Umbran]

The closest you come is "it's inevitable". That's still distanced and logical, and not really sharing an opinion you could then be held to.

You hold people to opinions in your regular life?

I hold people to promises. I hold them to stated facts. I hold them to their logic. I don't hold people to "I liked/disliked this". As far as I am concerned, you can change your preferences on the borg Queen seven times in a day, and I wouldn't care.

The Shakespearean phrase is, "there is no accounting for taste".

 

[Kaodi]

I wonder if she is some sort of clone of the original Borg Queen that we met, the one that turned Picard into Locutus. The Borg released her "into the wild" to acquire the modicum of individuality that other queens had prior to assimilation, but something happened and here we are.