New Rise of Skywalker trailer

[Zardnaar]

Some Star Wars conservationists suggest a more extreme approach, that Star Wars should abandon all attempts at re-invention and instead cater exclusively to the old-school fanbase. Though attractive, this approach may prove impractical as a long-term solution.

I think they have to stick to a few tropes. Doesn't matter what the franchise is the fans will turn in you if they expect ABC and serve you XYZ.

See 4E.

No change is bad, so is blowing up the world.

If you want to get away from the Skywalker's a different era is a way to do it for original stories. The old republic era is popular dues to the KoToR games.

Several of the old EU characters pre Disney sometimes polled higher than OT characters. I think Thrawn beat Vader once in a poll. The holy Trinity of EU characters would be Thrawn, Mara Jade and HK-47 if I had to guess. Canderous and Jaina Solo would probably be up there as well.

I said previously I would have cherry picked the old EU, for new canon the KoToR era would have been part of it. Star Wars was making millions on years with no new movies and the EU was fueling it. That's a lot of disgruntled fans to PO.

The new characters can't win polls on Starwars.com lol.

 

[Hussar]

What’s a KoTOR? The only word in there I know is Thrawn.

 

[Zardnaar]

What’s a KoTOR? The only word in there I know is Thrawn.

Knights of the Old Republic. Set 4000 years before ANH. Popular era and a video game. Kathleen Kennedy hinted at it in a Q&A.

It's popular with the hardcore, and casuals who played the games, read the comics etc.

That, Thrawn Trilogy and the X-Wing novels would probably be the holy Trinity of the old EU. The rpg sourcebook is also expensive from when WotC had the SW license. They lost it because they got greedy.

It's the obvious place to go if you want to get away from Skywalker's.

 

[Hussar]

So we should stick with a twenty year old video game for inspiration?

A thirty year old series of novels?

Yeah. No thanks. Mine the good stuff and pitch the rest.

 

[Zardnaar]

So we should stick with a twenty year old video game for inspiration?

A thirty year old series of novels?

Yeah. No thanks. Mine the good stuff and pitch the rest.

It's basically what I'm saying. I would have mined it a bit deeper. Kylo is very similar to Han's EU kid.

Enjoy Episode IX The Rise of Dark Empire 2.0.

 

[Hussar]

It's basically what I'm saying. I would have mined it a bit deeper. Kylo is very similar to Han's EU kid.

Enjoy Episode IX The Rise of Dark Empire 2.0.

Y’know, if you actually meant that I’d be so happy. But instead we have to listen to endless bitching from fanboys. Sigh. Can’t I just like something I like in peace without having someone come and widdle in my corn flakes?

Just once?

 

[Zardnaar]

Y’know, if you actually meant that I’d be so happy. But instead we have to listen to endless bitching from fanboys. Sigh. Can’t I just like something I like in peace without having someone come and widdle in my corn flakes?

Just once?

I'll create a Disney Widdled in my cornflakes thread.

 

[Imaculata]

Some Star Wars conservationists suggest a more extreme approach, that Star Wars should abandon all attempts at re-invention and instead cater exclusively to the old-school fanbase. Though attractive, this approach may prove impractical as a long-term solution.

I think there's only so far you can go with the old canon. I believe it was Rich Evans (from Red Letter Media) who said that the Star Wars universe, regardless of all it's expanded universe stuff, is pretty small. And what he meant by that, is that if you're doing anything related to Star Wars, it always has to fall back on Stormtroopers, Darthvader, Lightsabers, X-wings, Tie Fighters, Walkers, Jedi, Galactic Super Weapon, Millenium Falcon. It really is a very small universe when they think about it, and there's not much creative freedom. Anything outside those bounderies won't feel like Star Wars.

 

[Zardnaar]

I think there's only so far you can go with the old canon. I believe it was Rich Evans (from Red Letter Media) who recently said that the Star Wars universe, regardless of all it's expanded universe stuff, is pretty small. And what he meant by that, is that if you're doing anything related to Star Wars, it always has to fall back on Stormtroopers, Darthvader, Lightsabers, Tie Fighters, Walkers, Jedi. It really is a very small universe when they think about it, and there's not much creative freedom. It's very restrictive, because it has to be, or it won't feel like Star Wars.

You can change the time frame.

The force helps but you can have good Star Wars without it

 

[Hussar]

Part of me hopes that @Zardnaar is 100% right and that the new Star Wars movie crashes and burns. Then I can watch as Disney closes the shutters and lets the IP stay fallow for the next twenty years or so until the "fans" have aged out and then they can bring it back for the rest of us.

The viciousness of the Star Wars "fans" is just unbelievable. I mean, good grief, there's currently a twitterstorm because the teaser trailer doesn't have a reflection of a cape in the fight between Kylo Ren and Rei. SERIOUSLY?!?!? This is what it's come to? People losing their minds over trivial crap like this when the OT had storm troopers banging their heads on doorways?

I'm just so 100% fed up with people who pretend to be fans but just want to tear things down rather than be any part of anything positive.