Order your Star Wars films

[Warpiglet]

#10 The Last Jedi - One of the worst movies ever made, but given the train wreck of a first act that this was supposed to build on, nothing else really could have been expected. A total farce worthy only of mockery from now to the end of time.

Truer words were never spoken.

Many years of character development gone in minutes.

Bizarre throwaway characters and plot lines.

Killed a stormtrooper captain with ease. Snoke also never developed. Luke = Puke.

Saw a new hope in theaters as a child. I really question even subjecting myself to the last film after 40+ years of fandom.

Feel free to read this post in the voice of comic book guy from the simpsons if you wish. That film was a fresh turd on a hot day.

Oh Disney

 

[Hussar]

And yet, my daughters loved both movies and can't wait to see the next one.

It always baffles me, frankly, when people talk about Star Wars in terms of "good movie making". It's Star Wars. Art, it is not. A New Hope is glacially paced, boring as all hell and, had it come out today instead of in the 70's, wouldn't even rate a second glance. I mean, good grief, we get to watch a couple of robots walk around in the desert for a significant chunk of the movie.

Look, I love Star Wars. But, that's the 5 year old me that saw it at a drive in movie with my family drooling. Adult me, rewatching the movie, has a heck of a time staying awake because the movie is about twice as long as it should have been.

 

[Zardnaar]

And yet, my daughters loved both movies and can't wait to see the next one.

It always baffles me, frankly, when people talk about Star Wars in terms of "good movie making". It's Star Wars. Art, it is not. A New Hope is glacially paced, boring as all hell and, had it come out today instead of in the 70's, wouldn't even rate a second glance. I mean, good grief, we get to watch a couple of robots walk around in the desert for a significant chunk of the movie.

Look, I love Star Wars. But, that's the 5 year old me that saw it at a drive in movie with my family drooling. Adult me, rewatching the movie, has a heck of a time staying awake because the movie is about twice as long as it should have been.

It's because plot has become a dirty four letter word.

They want explosions and special effects that trigger epilepsy.

 

[Morrus]

Art, it is not.

It absolutely is art. Whether you consider it good art or not is another matter, but filmmaking is an art.

 

[Hussar]

It absolutely is art. Whether you consider it good art or not is another matter, but filmmaking is an art.

Fair enough. I guess I was just getting a trifle annoyed with multiple people proclaiming this or that Star Wars movie, as "garbage" or "a farce only worthy of mockery" or whatever.

Good grief, it's freaking Star Wars. What are people expecting?

 

[Hussar]

It's because plot has become a dirty four letter word.

They want explosions and special effects that trigger epilepsy.

Yeah, not so much. But, thank you for denigrating my daughters and presuming that they have no attention span or taste.

What plot does Star Wars, A New Hope have? I mean, we're not exactly talking a highly complex story here. It's pretty straight forward.

 

[Warpiglet]

Fair enough. I guess I was just getting a trifle annoyed with multiple people proclaiming this or that Star Wars movie, as "garbage" or "a farce only worthy of mockery" or whatever.

Good grief, it's freaking Star Wars. What are people expecting?

After watching the films for decades hoping for consistency in tone and character is an expectation.

And you're right, it's just for fun. But so are most of the hobbies we talk about here.

Unclear to me why you would be annoyed with people complaining about something you think is vapid fluff.

It's not an insult to people who like it. I am sure my kids will be happy with whatever they put out.

I also disagree with your assessment of the Star Wars films. They were groundbreaking in many ways and have been meaningful to many people who grew up pretending to be the heroes, collecting merch etc.

Maybe the complaints don't resonate because you had no expectations. Fair enough. Frankly, I find posting in a thread that intends to discuss preferences only to say they don't matter is sort of annoying too.

But whatever. I will pony up the bucks, be a good sport and take the family and hope for the best. I am grousing too much about the last film.

My rankings would place episodes 4, 5 and six at the top (surely biased by nostalgia) followed by episode 3 and rogue one. Solo maybe after these.

My last would be episode 2 followed by the last Jedi.

Hoping the last one repairs the weird departure that was the last Jedi.

 

[Mallus]

I'm trying to manage my expectations for Rise. I like Abrams, but I'm just not sure I want something that feels more like The Force Awakens after seeing what Johnson did with Last Jedi.

Because I swear Johnson made one of the most poignant & majestic space operas ever put on screen. One that did a bang-up job explaining The Force and had a last act to die for - seriously, say what you will about the plotting and character decisions but the climax on Crait was a marvel of pure cinema.

Then again, this one's got space horses, so maybe J.J. really did cut loose.

 

[billd91]

Saw a new hope in theaters as a child. I really question even subjecting myself to the last film after 40+ years of fandom.

I too experienced Star Wars in the theaters as a child back in 1977. I thoroughly enjoyed The Last Jedi and am looking forward to The Rise of Skywalker. So don't think dropping your lengthy experience with Star Wars indicates a trend.

 

[Gladius Legis]

Clone Wars animated goes below AotC can't rate the other 2 fairly it's been to long.

Nah, Clone Wars movie still goes above AotC and TPM.

I regard it as an extended pilot for the excellent series that followed. Extremely rough, sure, as many pilots are, but the seeds were there.