D&D 5E Am I no longer WoTC's target audience?

[Wulffolk]

This thread is too deep for me to completely read through at this point.

I will just say that I very much empathize with the original poster. While I have held the opinion that 5e is the best edition of D&D since buying the core books, I think that my opinion has changed. I really wanted 5e to be great, but the more time that goes by the more I miss 3.5e.

I absolutely hate WotC's 5e production decisions, especially their need to push adventure paths instead of producing source books. I much prefer source books that give me inspiration and rules for my own stories.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

How to explain it with a good example? Let's imagine a teleserie. In the first season a character appears, and you love her. In the next season a lot of things happen... but no news about that character... and in the last season, in this year, there are new characters, with fabulous stories, but you miss those characters from the first season haven't reapeared yet. The show is good, but you feel something has to be recovered.

 

[Lanefan]

That's the frustration ... if you can't or don't want to do your own conversions ...

This.

And not just from edition x into 5e; from any edition to any other. Conversion, if one wants to do it at all right, is a bloody pain in the ass. (says he, having converted modules from every D&D edition and even non-D&D systems so I could run them in a variant of 1e)

Which is why - and I'll bang this drum yet again just because I can - whenever WotC release a new adventure for 5e I'd like to see conversion guides included for each major previous edition of D&D (so, 1e, 2e, 4e, [BECMI/OD&D/RC pick one], [3e, 3.5e pick one]).

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Which is why - and I'll bang this drum yet again just because I can - whenever WotC release a new adventure for 5e I'd like to see conversion guides included for each major previous edition of D&D (so, 1e, 2e, 4e, [BECMI/OD&D/RC pick one], [3e, 3.5e pick one]).

And while they are at it, they should include bags of real gold pieces too...

 

[Lanefan]

And while they are at it, they should include bags of real gold pieces too...

Well, they could if they want; but I'll settle for conversion guides.

 

[dave2008]

This.

And not just from edition x into 5e; from any edition to any other. Conversion, if one wants to do it at all right, is a bloody pain in the ass. (says he, having converted modules from every D&D edition and even non-D&D systems so I could run them in a variant of 1e)

Which is why - and I'll bang this drum yet again just because I can - whenever WotC release a new adventure for 5e I'd like to see conversion guides included for each major previous edition of D&D (so, 1e, 2e, 4e, [BECMI/OD&D/RC pick one], [3e, 3.5e pick one]).

So you want a conversion guide to make new adventures playable in old editions?

That's interesting, I hadn't thought of that before. It is not going to happen, but that is an interesting idea.

Keep banging those drums (maybe louder, this was the first time I remember you asking for such a thing)!

 

[dave2008]

I will just say that I very much empathize with the original poster. While I have held the opinion that 5e is the best edition of D&D since buying the core books, I think that my opinion has changed. I really wanted 5e to be great, but the more time that goes by the more I miss 3.5e.

I absolutely hate WotC's 5e production decisions, especially their need to push adventure paths instead of producing source books. I much prefer source books that give me inspiration and rules for my own stories.

Question: has your opinion of 5e changed because there is something about the game you don't like or miss from other versions or games; or, do you not like the products WotC is publishing and that is why you don't like 5e anymore.

I just wasn't sure from your post. There are solutions for both, if you want to stick with 5e, but they are different solutions.

 

[3catcircus]

Question: has you opinion of 5e changed because there is something about the game you don't like or miss from other versions or games; or, do you not like the products WotC is publishing and that is why you don't like 5e anymore.

I just wasn't sure from your post. There are solutions for both, if you want to stick with 5e, but they are different solutions.

I can't give you his answer, but I'm betting mine is probably similar.

Just about all of the non-core 5e products have followed the same format: throw some stuff in for players and some stuff in for DMs, roll it around in a dusting of old campaign setting sugar if applicable, and declare it goodness.

The problem is it feels like mostly not new ground, just adding to the existing.

When someone says they want sourcebooks - I, for example, expect a study of what is supposed to be in the sourcebook, not an overview.

 

[dave2008]

I can't give you his answer, but I'm betting mine is probably similar.

Just about all of the non-core 5e products have followed the same format: throw some stuff in for players and some stuff in for DMs, roll it around in a dusting of old campaign setting sugar if applicable, and declare it goodness.

The problem is it feels like mostly not new ground, just adding to the existing.

When someone says they want sourcebooks - I, for example, expect a study of what is supposed to be in the sourcebook, not an overview.

So, referring back to my post you responded to: you're OK with / you like 5e as a game; however, you don't like the content WotC has provided since the core books, and this is making you turn away from 5e? Is that correct?

 

[Mecheon]

I also think opening up some more campaign settings for use in DMs Guild publications could help sate demand.

I cannot quote this point enough

I love Mystara but even I know we're not getting an update. Just throw it on the DMs Guild so that crazy big fan update that's been worked on for years can finally see the light of day