Star Trek Picard SPOILERS thread

[MarkB]

I got the impression that Raffi was living at least somewhat 'off the grid', to whatever extent that's possible on 24th century Earth. Picard takes a taxi to visit her rather than beaming in, and her 'medicinal' plants probably aren't strictly legal.

I suspect we'll see greater challenges to the whole "no money" concept next episode, since it looks like this Freecloud place is some kind of casino, based on the logo Raffi pulls up.

 

[MarkB]

Regarding "androids versus artificial life in general", we again see in episode 3 that the Federation's focus seems at once too narrow and too broad. Raffi's plan in the flashback for crewing the mothballed starships hinges upon using synthetics, so clearly there was a larger labour force in existence beyond those on Mars - but by the time they present their plan, the Federation has already ordered all of those synthetics disassembled (so I guess that's a "yes" to the "synth genocide?" question).

Picard is told that the flaw which caused the synths to go rogue is something specific - a "fatal code error in the operating system" - and yet the ban isn't on any specific model, or even on that operating system, it's on all synthetic beings.

But on the other hand, that clearly still only applies to artificial intelligences that are dressed up in a functional humanoid chassis. The ban is still in effect in the present day, but despite that, the sight of holographic medical staff with clearly highly developed and opinionated personalities doesn't even raise an eyebrow.

 

[Ryujin]

If I wanted to be left alone then a prefab at Vasquez Rocks might be a choice that I'd make.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

If I wanted to be left alone then a prefab at Vasquez Rocks might be a choice that I'd make.

Sure. But then why complain at Picard as if it is some sort of injustice? I suppose it could have been a bit of "Look at what you made me do!"

(As if Picard made her make poor life decisions).

Come to think of it, if she were a good officer (and I can't imagine she wasn't, if she worked that closely with Picard) then why did they fire her? How was that his fault?

 

[Truth Seeker]

Well, I wouldn't say I necessarily "want" a twin-moment... I just think it's possible that they're suggesting it.

Here's another idea to go with it: Was B4 really originally dumber than Data/Lore, or did his evil twin damage him? Maybe they've always been Cain and Able?

B4 was the firs stage of development, followed by Lore and then DATA, which resulted in Juliana, Soong's replicated dead wife.

And I have to update on the theory of the wife--it was detailed later, she had divorced and remarried from Soong, because of his continued/Obsession with android building. She was given a set date to expire. Her build was the ultimate completion of Soong's work. She had the means to fool sensors on bio readings. She can sweat, cry and whatever other actions to pass as human. If DATA never spoke of her to anyone, she initially disappeared into obscurity. I would be surprised if a mention of her is brought up.

 

[Truth Seeker]

The twin daughters of DataLore just fit storywise. Chances are Bruce Maddox at least got to look at dead Lore at least once (or more likely stole a positron or something). After all, one does wonder IF Data knew about anything or gave help to Bruce? Or was Bruce doing it mostly on his own?

I'd guess the Romulans did not have the ability to evacuate Romulus. Sure they have a massive war fleet, but not like massive cargo and passenger ships. It's the old US/Soviet Union thing again.

Until it comes out that they are their 'daughters', Bruce got the parental rights. LOL!!!!

It been slowly suggested now, that the reason Romulans asked for help, the evacuation was more than one planet, it looks to be they had more habit planets in their solar system. The plot point on how many ships they had is simply a head scratcher and lets leave it at that.

 

[Ryujin]

Sure. But then why complain at Picard as if it is some sort of injustice? I suppose it could have been a bit of "Look at what you made me do!"

(As if Picard made her make poor life decisions).

Come to think of it, if she were a good officer (and I can't imagine she wasn't, if she worked that closely with Picard) then why did they fire her? How was that his fault?

Because her notoriety for having worked with Picard makes it necessary that she drop off the map, to have any life at all?

 

[Truth Seeker]

Okay---as a SPOILER thread, this is coming down the pike. Jonathan Frakes directs Eps #4 and #5. Any further references of Star Trek Prime showings ships or whatever are getting reduced. Kurtzman has cut back on that to reduce the costs of 'renting' imageries of said main IP.

If I were to rate the first 3 showings of STP, all of them will get 4 out of 10. The editing is sloppy, switching out cutscenes were terrible. The constant mistakes on costumes appearances are just...well. The constant teardown on Picard by women is getting old. Dialogue is so 21st century and the clothing in some scenes. And the pacing...has not been fluid.

The constant feel I get, it is like watching a soap opera...like no, TREK is not suppose to be like that.

And the butt kicker to take the prize. What the frell with those Glasses on a Vulcan.??! In daylight...

 

[Truth Seeker]

I got the impression that Raffi was living at least somewhat 'off the grid', to whatever extent that's possible on 24th century Earth. Picard takes a taxi to visit her rather than beaming in, and her 'medicinal' plants probably aren't strictly legal.

I suspect we'll see greater challenges to the whole "no money" concept next episode, since it looks like this Freecloud place is some kind of casino, based on the logo Raffi pulls up.

She lost all her coverage from Starfleet, which mean her health insurance. A another direct poke on our reality. sigh

 

[MarkB]

She lost all her coverage from Starfleet, which mean her health insurance. A another direct poke on our reality. sigh

That wasn't mentioned in the show. It's literally something you just made up in your own head, specifically so you could complain about it.