Star Trek Picard SPOILERS thread

[aramis erak]

Original timeline, yep.

They did not label it "`Original" but "Prime"...

 

[Truth Seeker]

That wasn't mentioned in the show. It's literally something you just made up in your own head, specifically so you could complain about it.

Actually no, not made up or it is a complaint, just look to how she is living. To broaden the scope, the near mention of 'wealth' is also a direct dig on the privilege of those who has such luxuries, is straight out from our world. And her vaping, the same thing. None of that is a complaint but a observation...on the writing.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Any further references of Star Trek Prime showings ships or whatever are getting reduced. Kurtzman has cut back on that to reduce the costs of 'renting' imageries of said main IP.

Where are you getting your legal stuff from? I assume your two thoughts (Frakes directing & Kurtzman cutting back) don't have anything to do with each other.

If I were to rate the first 3 showings of STP, all of them will get 4 out of 10.

C'mon, the first two were way better than the third one (though I liked all three better than you did).

What the frell with those Glasses on a Vulcan.??! In daylight...

When was that? I'm not sure I've even seen any vulcans. I mean, Commodore Oh is supposed to be Vulcan, but who believes that? She's clearly a Romulan. I don't remember seeing a Vulcan with glasses.

To broaden the scope, the near mention of 'wealth' is also a direct dig on the privilege of those who has such luxuries, is straight out from our world. And her vaping, the same thing.

I think you're right about that. Star Trek has always been a soapbox to talk about current politics. Usually it's used to have hope for the future, that it will turn out better. Lately it's been more cynical, like everything's gonna turn out to be just the same...

 

[Mallus]

Come to think of it, if she were a good officer (and I can't imagine she wasn't, if she worked that closely with Picard) then why did they fire her? How was that his fault?

One reason immediately comes to mind: politics.

 

[trappedslider]

Any further references of Star Trek Prime showings ships or whatever are getting reduced. Kurtzman has cut back on that to reduce the costs of 'renting' imageries of said main IP.

Given your name, i think it would be fitting if you included links to back you up. Unless your user name is just an attempt at irony....

 

[Beleriphon]

So what about the income inequality? In the 24th century with no money. Billionaire Picard owns a huge villa and a vineyard. Poor Raffi lives in a double wide Fed-Trailer with polyester curtains and a redwood deck. But WHY? Does not everyone on 24th century Earth get a mansion if they want one? Plus like a billion square miles of land?

And Rios Solo is around Earth.....and he is one of them greedy, dirty Fergengi-like money humans. Except there is no money in the Federation......right? So, how does he ''get paied" ? Even if he gets money, where and how does he spend it?

The Federation is a post scarcity society, in part due to replicator technology. They do use "money" internally in the form of Federation credits. Most member worlds use currency in some form or another, and all of them are pegged to the Fedaration credit, which means they have an easy means of trade between each other and other cultures.

Recall from the TOS that Kirk tries to get people to sell him, I think dilitium, but they wont accept money they want food. Uhura was able to buy Tribbles with some kind of currency. In a post-scarcity society you can still have currency, but it doesn't buy you necessities it buys you luxury. Thus Picard sells the wine because it is a luxury good, and why anybody can replicate win, you need to trade something for a Chateau Picard 2386. The easiest thing to trade is currency.

Riker in TNG acts confused about being paid to be a Starfleet officer, which seems odd. I suspect the actual intent is that he's telling the person he isn't in Starfleet because it pays well, but because he wants to be doing Starfleety things. Riker knows what gold-press latinum is, and even haggles with Quark over it some of the cross-over episodes.

So on Earth, the only reason people live the way they do is because they choose to do so.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Given your name, i think it would be fitting if you included links to back you up. Unless your user name is just an attempt at irony....

 

[FitzTheRuke]

So on Earth, the only reason people live the way they do is because they choose to do so.

So if she chooses to live that way, why does she give Picard a hard time about it? I'm guessing that it's because she would rather be in Starfleet, but she doesn't have that choice, so she blames him for the choices she made with limited options.

 

[bloodtide]

Mpney has always been a problem for Star Trek. They want a money less future society....but then the average dumb writer can't get past making a story with money.

And as Picard is all about ''modern politics" it will be even worse.

 

[Beleriphon]

So if she chooses to live that way, why does she give Picard a hard time about it? I'm guessing that it's because she would rather be in Starfleet, but she doesn't have that choice, so she blames him for the choices she made with limited options.

Politics, as mentioned. Raffi doesn't have to live really there. A lot of the plot there is more that she blames Picard for ruining her career.

As for moneyless, the Federation isn't without money, it is without the desire for the accumulation of wealth. Since an accumulation of wealth doesn't get you anything that isn't already available.