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D&D and the rising pandemic

Zardnaar

Legend
It’s mind boggling.

She trusted medical science to cure her cancer. But she doesn’t need flu vaccination and Covid19-19 is a hoax.

See previous comment.
We've only got 5 cases in New Zealand, one has been released and the rest are in self quarantine.

Travel ban from China for over a month and we have a decent health system.

Hopefully won't be to bad here but who knows. No confirmed cases locally. If there are gonna shut group down. Student city they always get wrecked by "fresher flu" and other stuff.
 

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NotAYakk

Legend
Travel only based testing, especially only of people presenting symptoms, is nowhere near catching 100%.

If 5 people got a positive result when you are only testing sick-presenting people from hotspots, you plausibly have low-level commumity spread already.

Locally a health authority started testing everyone who arrived from international trips, regardless of if there was a known outbreak. 1 of the doctors was found to be infected, with no known contact with any known infected person, or going anywhere near a hotspot.

It takes about 100 community cases before somone gets sick enough to go to the hospital and need O2 or more. Under most nation's testing protocols, that is the first community-spread test they'll perform.

If you pass 10,000 cases, local health care systems start to buckle. It grows 10x every 16 or so days. So the first community spread case is 1 month from when you need to lockdown to keep it under health care system capacity.
 





Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Supporter
If you are one of the people hoarding toilet paper, don’t forget to throw a roll to your Witcher.

Yeah, so, that's an interesting psychological point. We are a consumer economy. We are trained to buy things when faced with an issue (rather than to do things). So, when coronavirus came into the news, folks bought masks and hand sanitizer. While it would seem like that's rational, it wasn't any more rational than hoarding toilet paper - it is an attempt to buy a thing to give you some sense of control.
 

Sacrosanct

Legend
This may not directly relate specifically to the topic, but what I find mind boggling is the obsession with the testing kits and getting tested, like if you get tested once and it shows you not infected, that you will never get infected. Where does that idea even come from? I agree with the doctors who say that most everyone will get this, just like most everyone gets the flu or a cold, and thinking you are safe after just a single test is stupid.

lowkey13 pretty much hit it, but to reiterate:

1. widespread testing means you catch the cases way earlier, which enables you to engage in actions to prevent spreading it. SARS and MERS are way worse than this, but because the symptoms show up a lot faster, and we could test for it a lot faster, allowed us to contain it much better.

No one feels "safe" per se if getting testing. But there is a level of reassurance there. Because the virus can take up to two weeks before showing symptoms, I am not visiting my grandma anymore, which sucks for her a lot. if I knew I was clear, I could go see her. I just can't risk it right now.

Testing also allows us to get much better numbers, and come up with much better incubation, contagoius times, severity %s, mortality %s, etc. In most cases, the symptoms are minor, which means a lot of people aren't being tested, which skews those numbers, which means we're working with bad data. The more information we have and the more accurate, the better.


If you are one of the people hoarding toilet paper, don’t forget to throw a roll to your Witcher.

Last week I was talking with a person who worked at Fred Meyer, and she asked a lady why she was buying up all the TP. She sheepishly replied, "I see everyone else doing it, and I don't want to miss out in case they know something I don't."

Herd mentality.
 



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