D&D and the rising pandemic

[Luminous]

Sure. The alternative is a lot of people die.

It is a lot like stabbing someone with a knife. The alternative to not stabbing.someone with a knife is that the person shot has a good chance of death.

With initial treatment, the death rate was about 1% of infected (varies eith demographics), and treatment advances have seemed to about half that death rate since then.

Areas where people distance and wear a mask and cut off areas that don't see the virus not soread, so fewer people die.

As you remove some of that, infection rates go up, and more people die. Cause, effect.

Starting this month, an alternative is starting to trickle in. My best guess is 1/300 of the population of the covud-plague-heavy zones will die in the USA from covid 19 before vaccination stops it.

Areas of the world where infection control works will see closer to 1/3000 dead, about 10x less, or better.

Tracking down which of the 1000s of people in your country you may have killed by not wearing a mask is hard. On average, a each covid unsafe person only kills about 1 in 30, give or take. A good stab with a kitchen knife follwed by rapid paramedic help is probably about that deadly.

Most people who stab random strangers with knives in hospitals then run away and don't get caught are not described as "respecting life" by credible people.

But the anti-mask movement in most countries is the majority people, so responding to their actions to the scale of the consequences is not permitted. So we pretend it is a legitimate difference of opinion.

Yeah, right!

 

[Luminous]

In this case, we can add...

"I drive while drunk. Nobody tells me not to."


Overall, the US has had 14.6 million cases, and 281,000 deaths (the reported number went up since my previous post earlier tonight!).

That's an overall mortality rate more like 2%. Yes, that's including the period earlier this year when hospitals were getting swamped. But, guess what? They're getting swamped again. Advances in treatment will fail when cases overwhelm the healthcare system.

Reports I've seen recently for the US give the virus a reproductive number around 4 when folks ignore safety precautions like masks and social distancing.

If someone gets it, they will probably survive. But if we treat them like a statistically average case they'll give it to four people. If they're likewise ignoring safety, each of them will give it to 4 more (adding 16, bringing the total to 20). Those 16 will each infect four more (adding 64, to a total of 84). One of those people dies. The 64 each infect 4 (adding 256, bringing the total to 340 infected.) At this point, with that 2% mortality rate, six people are probably dead.

Each of those generations take about a week. If they die, they probably do so within a month of getting sick. So, if you walk around unprotected, and get covid... statistically speaking, within two months, you may be fine, but six other people are dead.

Well look at you, the god of statistics, who never lies.
I could've given you a logical retort but I just have to give my own insult once in a while.

 

[Zardnaar]

This is gonna end well.

 

[Luminous]

This is gonna end well.

Just like always.

Spoiler

 

[Zardnaar]

Just like always.

Spoiler

I think the moral of the story is if people bothered putting in minimal amount of effort short term you could have fun now.

 

[Luminous]

In this case, we can add...

"I drive while drunk. Nobody tells me not to."


Overall, the US has had 14.6 million cases, and 281,000 deaths (the reported number went up since my previous post earlier tonight!).

That's an overall mortality rate more like 2%. Yes, that's including the period earlier this year when hospitals were getting swamped. But, guess what? They're getting swamped again. Advances in treatment will fail when cases overwhelm the healthcare system.

Reports I've seen recently for the US give the virus a reproductive number around 4 when folks ignore safety precautions like masks and social distancing.

If someone gets it, they will probably survive. But if we treat them like a statistically average case they'll give it to four people. If they're likewise ignoring safety, each of them will give it to 4 more (adding 16, bringing the total to 20). Those 16 will each infect four more (adding 64, to a total of 84). One of those people dies. The 64 each infect 4 (adding 256, bringing the total to 340 infected.) At this point, with that 2% mortality rate, six people are probably dead.

Each of those generations take about a week. If they die, they probably do so within a month of getting sick. So, if you walk around unprotected, and get covid... statistically speaking, within two months, you may be fine, but six other people are dead.

NOW I will give the logical retort you guys always love.

First, an analysis of what you are saying:
"I don't wash my hands after pooping. Nobody tells me to."
"I don't cover my nose and mouth when I sneeze in public. Nobody tells me to."
"I don't cover an open wound when it's bleeding. Nobody tells me to."
"I don't throw my trash in a trash can, I just drop it on the ground. Nobody tells me to."
Well that's lovely.
You are comparing (not wearing a mask) to not washing my hands after I naughty word, stabbing someone with a knife, driving drunk...
I am not doing it because nobody tells me to; I don't care. I simply refuse, unless I am forced to wear one, and everybody else doesn't confront me, because they understand.
I am not anti-mask, I simply do not wear one. The experts that I have consulted, including a doctor, say there is no need anyway. For this virus, though other viruses might come up where it would be both necessary and effective.
What matters is where you get your information. And most people here are not looking in good places.

 

[Luminous]

That is the stated intent of the incoming administration here in the US as well.

Holy crap.

 

[Luminous]

Meets his Doominous.

That is the stated intent of the incoming administration here in the US as well.

I think Mr. Umbran has a misunderstanding about United States politics; his statement was completely political, but also subtle.
I will discuss and correct his misunderstanding of the U.S political system.
I believe he is talking about

Spoiler: Political, but funny, although the funniness is not the point.

THIS

incoming administration.
He seems to believe that a certain presidential candidate whose name is Trumalimunumaprzure Bedikefcare is actually the President-elect. This is misinformation. A brief outline for the actual electoral process is described.

• Voting : The citizens of America vote for a presidential candidate. -
• Debates : Major presidential candidates answer questions to explain what they believe. -
• Votes are counted: After votes are submitted they are scanned and added to Presidential Candidate's total number of votes. -
• Electoral College Convenes : A compromise between Democracy and a Republic. A group of 538 people from across the nation vote for a president and vice President based on the votes of the people. This has not yet happened, and will occur on December 14th. After a candidate has been certified by the Electoral College, he can then be called the President-elect.

An inauguration is held to appoint the President-elect on January 20th, and the President-elect can then be called the President. If a President is inaugurated, it will take serious legal action to overturn the election results.

 

[Zardnaar]

I think Mr. Umbran has a misunderstanding about United States politics; his statement was completely political, but also subtle.
I will discuss and correct his misunderstanding of the U.S political system.
I believe he is talking about

Spoiler: Political, but funny, although the funniness is not the point.

THIS

incoming administration.
He seems to believe that a certain presidential candidate whose name is Trunalimunumprazure Bedikefcare is actually the President-elect. This is misinformation. A brief outline for the actual electoral process is described.

• Voting : The citizens of America vote for a presidential candidate. -
• Debates : Major presidential candidates answer questions to explain what they believe. -
• Votes are counted: After votes are submitted they are scanned and added to Presidential Candidate's total number of votes. -
• Electoral College Convenes : A compromise between Democracy and a Republic. A group of 538 people from across the nation vote for a president and vice President based on the votes of the people. This has not yet happened, and will occur on December 14th. After a candidate has been certified by the Electoral College, he can then be called the President-elect.

An inauguration is held to appoint the President-elect on January 20th, and the President-elect can then be called the President. If a President is inaugurated, it will take serious legal action to overturn the election results.

Technically you are correct. Technically you just broke the rules.

 

[Luminous]

Technically you are correct. Technically you just broke the rules.

Actually Bedikefcare broke the rules.