D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

Hohige

Explorer
Dispel-able, doesn't protect against meteor swarms. You're locked into your bunker again.

The Sanctum is scryable, if the inside is not. Teleport Sim to dispel, you're out a Sanctum, I get Sim back next day. Reset plan, engage, Sorcerer dead.

See above.

Don't care if Sim is dead -- teleport in, dispel. If failed, keep trying until Surprise/win initiative.

The Wizard has the advantage that you have to stay in your bunker, the wizard has time, and resets faster than you. You cannot expend your minions, while the Wizard can -- he just spends another day making a new one, which you cannot do because you're locked into having Wish available -- if you try to do something else, you're open to attack. And the Wizard can afford to spend the resources daily to see if this is so without impacting their plan.
1) The Sanctum is scryable, if the inside is not. Teleport Sim to dispel, you're out a Sanctum, I get Sim back next day. Reset plan, engage, Sorcerer dead.

No, because DDM Simulacrum at will detect magic will prevent you from using it against my allies. Dispelling it. Also, for you all you would see was fog, but detect magic will prevent you from using it against the allies. Try to teleport and you will be killed instantly. Poor.
See Invisible counter scrying. Poor Wizard.

Your Wizard cannot win this battle. Muaha
 
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He is crazy powerful, but beatable. Just not in a normal battle sense. Don't try and fight him on those terms. Pretty much any elf can defeat him, as can gnomes! Just takes some time ;-)
 

delph

Explorer
It's funny that when someone find way how to kill your sorcerer, you can't say "Okay, you win this turn" for next I use this and this, try again. But concetedly, say je do it before. And finish with you "Sorcerer win" but your starting settup was Death ten times.

We win in way - your sorcerer have too much work on his staying alive in his fortress then no body need him death.

And dream Spell version - wish "I wanna one hair od those secret sorcerer." Not big Wish. But give you everything you need when you need...
 

Ovinomancer

No flips for you!
1) The Sanctum is scryable, if the inside is not. Teleport Sim to dispel, you're out a Sanctum, I get Sim back next day. Reset plan, engage, Sorcerer dead.

No, because DDM Simulacrum at will detect magic will prevent you from using it against my allies. Dispelling it. Also, for you all you would see was fog, but detect magic will prevent you from using it against the allies. Try to teleport and you will be killed instantly. Poor.
See Invisible counter scrying. Poor Wizard.

Your Wizard cannot win this battle. Muaha
Cool, easy elimination of DMM -- she has to stay awake to keep detect magoc up, so just wait until she dies of exhaustion.

Any other tactics that self-implode?
 

Hohige

Explorer
It's funny that when someone find way how to kill your sorcerer, you can't say "Okay, you win this turn" for next I use this and this, try again. But concetedly, say je do it before. And finish with you "Sorcerer win" but your starting settup was Death ten times.

We win in way - your sorcerer have too much work on his staying alive in his fortress then no body need him death.

And dream Spell version - wish "I wanna one hair od those secret sorcerer." Not big Wish. But give you everything you need when you need...

I strongly disagee Dream Spell will never work with a creature you don't know who it is, any spell needs a target and Mind Blanked. It never worked. I just made things more fun by having an Elf body, improving your stealth skills, HP and further improving the tricky Master of Deception.
 

Hohige

Explorer
Cool, easy elimination of DMM -- she has to stay awake to keep detect magoc up, so just wait until she dies of exhaustion.

Any other tactics that self-implode?
Greater Restourarion spell avoids exaustion. ^^
See Invisibile counters Scrying. Lol. It's a bad strategy.

Say hello to anyone who is scrying and waiting for spell duration to ends.
 
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delph

Explorer
I strongly disagee Dream Spell will never work with a creature you don't know who it is, any spell needs a target and Mind Blanked. It never worked. I just made things more fun by having an Elf body, improving your stealth skills, HP and further improving the tricky Master of Deception.
You have part of his body, that's enough. And you have disadvantage on that roll.
 

Overall its an incredibly fun idea for a character, and very dangerous. But in an actual situation would be possible to kill - it's a great combination of things! There would be ways round it, they will have ways round them... We should just go, yes that was great - excellent, and move on! We don't need to prove via argument we can kill character X, and I hope Hohige doesn't feel the need to prove it's immortal...
 

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