D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

[Jfdlsjfd]

What gibberish are you dribbling on about now? In order for the Aasimar racial abilities to do anything you have to activate them as an Action, and then you have to actually land an attack on the Bladesinger. Spells are out (due to the AMF) so its going to have to be a Melee attack (or ranged weapon attack).

Which Aasimar racial abilities does the Drow Favored Consort usually have?

 

[Hohige]

You cant counterspell anything. He's literally in an Anti Magic Field, as are you, grappled.

I cant cast anything either once that spell is active mind you.


No, as I have already stated, they've been dealt with by my own infinite Simulacra (who have 9th level slots) and my own Magens. We can safely assume our legions of Simulacra and Magens and summoned beings cancels each other out.

Not really fair on me, because my Simulacra have 9th level spells (and Wish) but I'll happily just rule they cancel out your legions of minions.



What gibberish are you dribbling on about now? In order for the Aasimar racial abilities to do anything you have to activate them as an Action, and then you have to actually land an attack on the Bladesinger. Spells are out (due to the AMF) so its going to have to be a Melee attack (or ranged weapon attack).

First of all complete your build and Infinite loops, coffeelocking, Simulacrum-Cheese is banned.

1) "You cant counterspell anything. He's literally in an Anti Magic Field, as are you, grappled."
Sorry, but Antimagic Field is only 10'.

If you want to cast antimagic field and get closer to the Sorcerer, you are within reach of the Sorcerer's Counterspell. 10ft only and you are very slow.


Infinite loops, coffeelocking and Simulacra-chesse is banned,repeat again?
You haven't posted your complete build yet, you need to post it. And I'm going to ignore your infinite loop and coffelocking. Even within your infinite loops, the sorcerer wins, It's Twin Simulacrum and metamagic, so you lost in your boring Theory Crafting. How I will be analyzing the classes your strategy. First.

Bladesong
"Starting at 2nd level, you can invoke an elven magic called the Bladesong, provided that you aren’t wearing medium or heavy armor or using a shield. It graces you with supernatural speed, agility, and focus."

Blade Song is a magical effect.
It does not work in the AMF.

So, you're dead with Sorcerer's Storm Fury dealing instant 20 damage. The Sorcerer has more HP than the Wizard.
Concentration check. We know where this is going

 

[Zio_the_dark]

HUN-HAT is defeated by Alfred, all from the comfort of his own home. Vote.

And all of this without any damage to his house or garden!

 

[Hohige]

Alfred the Homebird, Wizard 20 (Chronurgist), Variant Human, Background of Cloistered Scholar.

INT 20, DEX 14, WIS 15, CON 14, CHA 10, STR 8 (standard array)
Feats: Telepathic, Observant, 2 ASI (INT and CON), Lucky (he broke up with a DMM and lived...), Skill Expertise (Nature),
Skills: History, Nature, Investigation, Arcana.
HP: 122

Cloned, equipped with a contingency and a Simulacrum of himself.


Strategy in the mighty fight against the planar-travelling Retriever who delivered HUN-HAT to his smoking lounge.

Roll initiative (+7) vs Retriever (+3) and incapacitated HUN-HAT (+2, irrelevant).

Realizing that HUN-HAT can become tiring if he succeed on his saving throw to free from paralyzation, and that it is not a regular cookie seller or amateur herborist, warranting removal from the premises (but not enough to harm him until further information is gathered... Alfred was never big on violence and the guy just arrived uninvited in his home). Plus, if Ilmater was right, it was the guy he was tasked to fight, and who apparently made Eilirilia live a very uncomfortable life... He had left her, but she didn't do anything wrong, it was the result of her upbringing and she didn't deserve to hover until the end of time without ever touching the ground. So after an instant of internal monologue, Alfred reluctantly settle for the use of nonlethal force.

So... On round 1, Alfred will Imprison (9th level spell slot), using the Eternal Slumber version [he has been cultivating rare soporic herbs in his garden, right by the thyme patch] the HUN-HAT. Should the HUN-HAT succeed on his DC 19 Wisdom check (with his +0 ability score and no proficiency... but you can't rule out a natural 20), Alfred will spend an exhaustion level and activate his Convergent Future ability to set the dice to one less than was needed to succeed. Eternal slumber it is for the HUN-HAT.

On the same round, the Simulacrum butler is actively trying to remove the offending Retriever... a Large creature in the smoking lounge is SURE to make a mess! The immediate goal being protection of the furniture -- since there is obviously nothing threatening happening to anyone so far. His action is therefore to cast Polymorph to turn the Large Retriever into a CR 0 snail (which is lower than the original CR, so it's OK). If needed (the retriever rolls at +5 against a DC19), he'll use his own Convergent Future ability to make sure his mission to protect the premises is accomplished. As a move action, he'll move to the snail and collect it.

For some reason, after 10 minutes, the snail will vanish, leaving a puzzled Simulacrum (who was still concentrating on the spell) and an even more puzzled Alfred. Maybe interrogating the HUN-HAT will bring some answers. But it is a story for another day. Right now, Alfred can return to make herbal tea. For some reason, he dinged XP for defeating a level 20 threat after this uneventful, albeit strange, event, which puzzled him even more.

HUN-HAT is defeated by Alfred, all from the comfort of his own home. Vote.

We have a Wizard that cannot fly, casting a 30ft spell that lasts 1 minute.
I will repeat a minute of casting. with ridiculous 30ft range.

Easily counterspelled.

He also cannot fly.

Well, Wizard took 260 damage at 660ft.

The Wizard is dead.


Another Wizard who died.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Omg, we have a Wizard that cannot fly, casting a 30ft spell that lasts 1 minute.
I will repeat a minute of casting. with ridiculous 30ft range.

Easily counterspelled.

He also cannot fly.

Well, Wizard took 260 damage at 660ft.

The Wizard is dead.


Another Wizard who died.

There is noone to cast counterspell, has the HUN-HAT is incapacitated for one minute. There is also, noone to inflict damage at range, since in the setup you made, there is only a retriever in the smoking lounge and retriever don't have ranged attack. None of their attack (for the single round he's not in snail form) will inflict significant harm.

I read that you retracted the idea that the HUN-HAT went with the retriever, despite being established for a long time, in an interim post. I am prepared to communicate a strategy (which will include flying, even if not needed [by the general sens of the word flying, not your made up acception]) as I didn't post the memorized spell list of the wizard as soon as you'll have clarified which 8 monsters HUN-HAT brings back from his Demiplane of Basement.

 

[Hohige]

Well, we have a Slow Bladesinger (incomplete build) that uses 10ft range antimagic field to reach the Flying long range Sorcerer and doesn't want to be easly counterspelled. Antimagic Field blocks him Bladesong . And who is killed by Galven Magen and Sorcerer's Storm fury.
The worst strategy so far.

The other, Wizard Chronurgist that can't fly, wants to kill the Sorcerer with Imprisonment with 30ft range with 1 minute of casting, against Sorcerer's 660ft range flying creature and subtle counterspelling.
Another Wizard dead.
It's getting easy.

 

[Hohige]

There is noone to cast counterspell, has the HUN-HAT is incapacitated for one minute. There is also, noone to inflict damage at range, since in the setup you made, there is only a retriever in the smoking lounge and retriever don't have ranged attack. None of their attack (for the single round he's not in snail form) will inflict significant harm.

I read that you retracted the idea that the HUN-HAT went with the retriever, despite being established for a long time, in an interim post. I am prepared to communicate a strategy (which will include flying, even if not needed [by the general sens of the word flying, not your made up acception]) as I didn't post the memorized spell list of the wizard as soon as you'll have clarified which 8 monsters HUN-HAT brings back from his Demiplane of Basement.

Incapacited? That's not possible. But let's imagine that he is Incapacited for 10minutes The Wizard cannot fly. Failed.
Retriever, Simulacrum, MMD simulacrum and other 60 magen Other creatures kill the Alfred.

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Momentary Stasis​

Starting at 6th level, as an action, you can magically force a Large or smaller creature you can see within 60 feet of you to make a Constitution saving throw against your spell save DC. Unless the saving throw is a success, the creature is encased in a field of magical energy until the end of your next turn or until the creature takes any damage. While encased in this way, the creature is incapacitated and has a speed of 0.

You can use this feature a number of times equal to your Intelligence modifier (a minimum of once). You regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.


It's 60ft only and con save?

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Incapacited? That's not possible. But let's imagine that he is Incapacited for 10minutes The Wizard cannot fly. Failed.
Retriever, Simulacrum, MMD simulacrum and other 60 magen Other creatures kill the Alfred.

The HUN-HAT doesn't fly, it is incapacitated by the retriever. He can't do any action, including moving. It's lying on the dreaded ground, or more specifically on a calimshite carpet of high value, looking silly. Retriever alone killing Alfred and his Simulacrum are extremely unlikely. MMD, Simulacrum and the magen arent' there (the retriever can only move ONE person with him in the setup where you defended the idea that HUN-HAT could reach Alfred's house at the same time. This is the logical conclusion of YOUR setup and strategy, not mine. I read you retracted this setup (as I offered you to) but we need you to specify, when you get back from your Demiplane which can only be done through Wishing a Planeshift, which 8 creatures you bring back on the prime material plane. Barring an answer, I'll nominate the DMM, the Simulacrum and 6 magens.

 

[Hohige]

The HUN-HAT doesn't fly, it is incapacitated by the retriever. He can't do any action, including moving. It's lying on the dreaded ground, or more specifically on a calimshite carpet of high value, looking silly. Retriever alone killing Alfred and his Simulacrum are extremely unlikely. MMD, Simulacrum and the magen arent' there (the retriever can only move ONE person with him in the setup where you defended the idea that HUN-HAT could reach Alfred's house at the same time. This is the logical conclusion of YOUR setup and strategy, not mine. I read you retracted this setup (as I offered you to) but we need you to specify, when you get back from your Demiplane which can only be done through Wishing a Planeshift, which 8 creatures you bring back on the prime material plane. Barring an answer, I'll nominate the DMM, the Simulacrum and 6 magens.

Are you saying you're going to control Retrieve? It really doesn't make any sense. HAhaha, even that is not enough, because Retriever can't fly and his attacks are out of reach of the Demigod. Well, that Wizard was very weak.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Are you saying you're going to control Retrieve? It really doesn't make any sense. HAhaha, even that is not enough, because Retriever can't fly and his attacks are out of reach of the Demigod. Well, that Wizard was very weak.

Aflred doesn't control the Retriever. In the fight, it was established that the Retriever was hostile. Only the silly decisions of HUN-HAT on insisting to arrive at the same time as the Retriever in the smoking lounge made it necessary for him to accept be incapacitated so Retriever could carry him. A silly plan of him, that was. He lost because of that. You were right to retract that ill-concieved plan and accept that HUN-HAT can't arrive at the same time that the Retriever, because that was really a bad idea of him.

I am not sure that slowly hovering in the general direction of Alfred house, that you established as a replacement plan, will prove more fruitful.