Falcon and winter solider

[Enevhar Aldarion]

One thing that kind of bugged me....does Bucky have enhanced abilities beyond the arm? First he took that fall from the plane and then he caught up to a truck as it was speeding away. I don’t recall if there were ever any hints that he’d been otherwise enhanced, but that was the impression I got here.

Pretty sure he got the HYDRA version of the super soldier serum when he was captured by them during WWII.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Unfortunately Marvel has a tendency to go too black and white for my taste. They started him out legitimate, genuine good guy, wants to do the right thing, has an honest and true bada** military record to back it up. Honestly they made him look in the right initially, with Bucky and Falcon coming off as childish.

But even by the end of the episode we are seeing a bit more "dickish" behavior, and considering how in Wandavision the director of SWORD went from a decent looking human being in the first episode, to literally shooting at children by the end....I don't have a lot of hope in an actual multifaceted character.

You can be a dick no matter which side you are on!

Walker seems sincere to me (which doesn't preclude him being dickish sometimes). Bucky's issue is with the people giving him orders - the US government. And this is the point he is trying to make to Sam by taking him to see Isaiah. I think the direction the show is taking is that Captain America needs to be separate from the state. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? That white-haired senator in the first episode seemed very fishy to me.

Which brings me to the Flag Smashers. Maybe they have a point? Whatever, and obvious flag to be smashed is the one on Captain America's suit. I wouldn't be surprised if Walker is killed. Or, if he survives, he, or his bosses, might deicide he needs Super Soldier serum to do his job. And I think this is another issue the show ill address: do you need to be superhuman to be Captain America? Sam, like Walker, only has his skills (given that the same goes for Batman, I would say the answer is no).

As for the main villain, I would love to see Toby Jones' Zola back in some form. But that might be just wishful thinking on my part.

 

[Nikosandros]

Pretty sure he got the HYDRA version of the super soldier serum when he was captured by them during WWII.

Yes, he did get the serum from HYDRA. In the last episode, he tells Isaiah that "there's more of you and me out there".

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Yes, he did get the serum from HYDRA. In the last episode, he tells Isaiah that "there's more of you and me out there".

In the Captain America: The First Avenger he is found strapped to Zola's laboratory table.

This actually ties into my Zola hypothesis. Zola experimented on Bucky in 1944(?) and by the 1950s he is working for the US government, presumably with access to Dr Erskine's research. So it seems plausible that it was Zola who experimented on Isaiah.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

His current suit was described as Stark-tech during the cafe scene. And we know he lost the wings in Winter Soldier so it would have to be rebuilt or recreated. It also had technology like Redwing that it didn't originally have. So it's a pretty safe bet that his current suit is not the original suit, and therefore not owned by the USAF.

Yes, I know the wiki only has a single page. But that page isn't doesn't include the recent information that what he has now is Stark-tech. I guess it could be pre-Iron Man, when Stark Industries was selling munitions and weapons of war.

The original falcon suit was stolen from the US government (original design H. Stark?). So, even though it was completely upgraded by Stark (the Ship of Theseus sails again!) the original design is US government intellectual property. One assumes Stark designed the suit so that Sam could maintain it. It is going to need repairs after pretty much every mission. And it's going to need replacement parts. Which raises a major question: who controls the Stark company now? The obvious answer is Pepper, but she didn't seem to be running it during the blip. It could be that the government has a lot more control over it with Tony gone.

 

[Marc_C]

I was clearly wrong on my assessment of racism in the banker scene. After this weeks episode it’s clearly intentional that the writers want us to see racism

I wasn't convinced either but now it's very clear.

 

[Marc_C]

Info on Isaiah Bradley. I wasn't aware of the Tuskegee Study. Revolting.

Isaiah Bradley Explained - The MCU’s Forgotten Captain America

The history of the MCU has just been rewritten.

screenrant.com

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Info on Isaiah Bradley. I wasn't aware of the Tuskegee Study. Revolting.

Isaiah Bradley Explained - The MCU’s Forgotten Captain America

The history of the MCU has just been rewritten.

screenrant.com

Yeah, the comic Truth that Isaiah Bradley first was in was based loosely on reality, unfortunately.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Yeah, the comic Truth that Isaiah Bradley first was in was based loosely on reality, unfortunately.

Yep, and this is not political at all, because horrible things have happened no matter who has been in charge of the government here.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Yep, and this is not political at all, because horrible things have happened no matter who has been in charge of the government here.

Politics is more than "which party do you support". "Should we have a government at all" is also political.

And if you look into it, you will find most governments have done some pretty horrible things.