D&D General Alignment: the problem is Chaos

[ph0rk]

Why not Just use what was written in a previous edition then?

That’s like saying “just homebrew it”.

Anyone can do that, true, but it doesn’t mean the system was well designed in that regard.

I can homebrew psionics, too. That doesn’t mean 5e did psionics well.

 

[Sithlord]

That’s like saying “just homebrew it”.

Anyone can do that, true, but it doesn’t mean the system was well designed in that regard.

I can homebrew psionics, too. That doesn’t mean 5e did psionics well.

If my expect someone else to create what you want you will never have it or have very little. I see people on these boards offering solutions to many problems that people say they have. And when someone says no thank you I will wait until wotc officially does what I want it’s like why is someone even bringing it up. So these people just want refer to page 234 second column paragraph 2 in book xyz.

 

[ph0rk]

If my expect someone else to create what you want you will never have it or have very little. I see people on these boards offering solutions to many problems that people say they have. And when someone says no thank you I will wait until wotc officially does what I want it’s like why is someone even bringing it up. So these people just want refer to page 234 second column paragraph 2 in book xyz.

The point of a system is that it is a system.

If there are no mechanical rules for or impacts of an alignment “system” then it isn’t a system at all and some badly written fluff.

 

[Sithlord]

The point of a system is that it is a system.

If there are no mechanical rules for or impacts of an alignment “system” then it isn’t a system at all and some badly written fluff.

Then don’t use it. Do you need x number of people on a forum or a letter from wotc to give u permission to not use it.

 

[ph0rk]

Then don’t use it.

There isn’t a system to use. They left it out.

 

[Sithlord]

There isn’t a system to use. They left it out.

Okay. Then create one or use someone else’s. Many good suggestions here. Or wait for wotc to do it for you. Am I missing an option?

 

[ph0rk]

The point is not whether or not I can create an alignment system but whether or not WOTC did a good job importing it into or stripping it from 5e.

They appear to have tried to split the difference, which proves no usable crunch system. We pay them for crunch systems.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

The point is not whether or not I can create an alignment system but whether or not WOTC did a good job importing it into or stripping it from 5e.

They appear to have tried to split the difference, which proves no usable crunch system. We pay them for crunch systems.

A character has always things that are not tied to systems. Name, personality traits, ideal, flaw, bond etc. Alignment is just a roleplaying aide. A terrible one, but still.

 

[Oofta]

The point is not whether or not I can create an alignment system but whether or not WOTC did a good job importing it into or stripping it from 5e.

They appear to have tried to split the difference, which proves no usable crunch system. We pay them for crunch systems.

What's the problem with alignment being fluff? It's fluff that most people find useful.

 

[ph0rk]

What's the problem with alignment being fluff? It's fluff that most people find useful.

No problem at all, fluff is fine. There is enough remaining cruft that makes it seem like just a little bit more (mechanically) than fluff, almost a system. Being in between is what isn’t good. The fluff and system should be neatly separated, so players can use what they wish, without having to RTFM multiple times until it clicks which is which.