Wheel of Time Discussion - Spoilers(with book spoilers)

[Bolares]

I was just asking for a warning for the spoilers of the last two episodes, not that people stop talking about it

 

[Bolares]

A cool interview with Rosamund Pike about Moiraine's relationship with Siuan. Apparently, the "on your knees" line in the bedroom was improved by the both of them.

'The Wheel of Time's Rosamund Pike On Show's Historic Queer Romance

The star of the Amazon Prime Video series discusses a surprising revelation.

www.out.com

 

[Demetrios1453]

I was just asking for a warning for the spoilers of the last two episodes, not that people stop talking about it

Huh, I hid that info under spoilers on that post on my PC, but looking at it on my phone, it's out in the open. Sorry about that.

 

[Bolares]

Huh, I hid that info under spoilers on that post on my PC, but looking at it on my phone, it's out in the open. Sorry about that.

No worries, thanks!

 

[MarkB]

Huh, I hid that info under spoilers on that post on my PC, but looking at it on my phone, it's out in the open. Sorry about that.

I think inline spoilers (the one that blurs the text) don't work on mobile browsers. The [ SPOILER ] tag, that puts things in a separate box, does work, I think.

 

[Demetrios1453]

Funniest thing I've learned about the show this week: apparently the Swedish subtitles for the Amyrlin's title "Watcher of the Seals" didn't translate "seals" as "things that seal something away" but as... the sea mammal. So apparently she sits there and stares at seals cavorting in the water all day. And that sheds a whole new light on "breaking the Seals"...

 

[Mercurius]

I'm almost halfway through a re-read of Eye of the World. Some observations from the comparison:

- The overall tone of the book is younger - not quite young adult, but without the "adults only" elements that the show slips in. It was clearly written with a broader age-range in mind.

Some elements in the book that aren't present in the series:

• Two Rivers: Rand talks to and kills a Trolloc in the book; Tam is more capable with the sword. Watch Hill presumably doesn't exist in the series. And of course Thom shows up in Two Rivers and travels with them from the beginning.
• Baerlon is completely absent. Min (yet); Rand's encounter with the Whitecloaks; Moiraine using illusion to become giant.
• Shadar Logoth: Mordeth. The mashadar is depicted as black fungus rather than mist.
• Wilderness: Rand, Mat and Thom on the riverboat (including Rand's first apparent channeling*). Elyas Manchera and the wolves.

And of course, so far in the book, Logain has only been mentioned - he hasn't shown up in the actual book yet.

That's where I'm at - they're not quite at Caemlyn. Anyhow, I can see why they excised those parts and folded the essential elements into other aspects of the story. I suppose if they had done a 10-12 episode season, they could have done a full episode on Baerlon. I'm wondering if and how they might include Min. My guess is she will be written out, although who knows.

In general, to some extent, reading the book has really illustrated how the tv series feels like a summation of the books. I think they're doing a good job of it, but reading the books, I really feel the lack of depth and breadth in the series--about the world and Jordan's characteristic slow, and thus immersive, pace. Some of the confusion non-book readers experience might have been alleviated with a longer season. I think 12 would have been ideal, and I hope future seasons are longer (I'm guessing they'll be 10 episodes).
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[Mercurius]

Funniest thing I've learned about the show this week: apparently the Swedish subtitles for the Amyrlin's title "Watcher of the Seals" didn't translate "seals" as "things that seal something away" but as... the sea mammal. So apparently she sits there and stares at seals cavorting in the water all day. And that sheds a whole new light on "breaking the Seals"...

She is from Tear, after all.

 

[Parmandur]

I'm wondering if and how they might include Min. My guess is she will be written out, although who knows.

Kae Alexander is playing Min.

 

[Demetrios1453]

I'm almost halfway through a re-read of Eye of the World. Some observations from the comparison:

- The overall tone of the book is younger - not quite young adult, but without the "adults only" elements that the show slips in. It was clearly written with a broader age-range in mind.

Some elements in the book that aren't present in the series:

• Two Rivers: Rand talks to and kills a Trolloc in the book; Tam is more capable with the sword. Watch Hill presumably doesn't exist in the series. And of course Thom shows up in Two Rivers and travels with them from the beginning.
• Baerlon is completely absent. Min (yet); Rand's encounter with the Whitecloaks; Moiraine using illusion to become giant.
• Shadar Logoth: Mordeth. The mashadar is depicted as black fungus rather than mist.
• Wilderness: Rand, Mat and Thom on the riverboat (including Rand's first apparent channeling*). Elyas Manchera and the wolves.

And of course, so far in the book, Logain has only been mentioned - he hasn't shown up in the actual book yet.

That's where I'm at - they're not quite at Caemlyn. Anyhow, I can see why they excised those parts and folded the essential elements into other aspects of the story. I suppose if they had done a 10-12 episode season, they could have done a full episode on Baerlon. I'm wondering if and how they might include Min. My guess is she will be written out, although who knows.

In general, to some extent, reading the book has really illustrated how the tv series feels like a summation of the books. I think they're doing a good job of it, but reading the books, I really feel the lack of depth and breadth in the series--about the world and Jordan's characteristic slow, and thus immersive, pace. Some of the confusion non-book readers experience might have been alleviated with a longer season. I think 12 would have been ideal, and I hope future seasons are longer (I'm guessing they'll be 10 episodes).
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Min has been cast for Season 1, so she's showing up soon.