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D&D and the rising pandemic

The misinformation is scary. The mRNA vaccine gives you HIV/AIDS or increases your chances of get it. A Youtuber went on a rant recently about this. She made a bunch of claims. She even backed it up by saying a Nobel winning scientist who discovered HIV supports these claims. She closes out the video remarking on how suspicious it was this same scientist died 3 days prior to the release of her video.

How do we combat this? They'll tell you "Do your own research" then tell you not to trust anything hear or read. No one in power can be trusted.

When I hear this stuff I go to multiple sources. Harvard's medical school website is very informative. If I go to a questionable source I try to find where their information is coming from. As Umbran said, personal anecdotes are not data, yet it seems that's exactly where a lot of this is coming from.

" My cousin's, uncle's, momma's, nephew's, neighbor's, brother's sister done turned purple an exploded right in his face after gettin the shot. I ain't gonna get it." This is perfectly acceptable to some as proof.

My sister doesn't want the booster, even though, she's had Covid twice. She's heard people have had bad reactions to it. She can't provide specific examples or details.
I can sympathize. I wish I could figure out how to get through to my parents, but feel perilously close to just throwing up my hands and walking away. It's beyond frustrating that they continue to be stubborn about it, even while suffering the consequences, even despite literally coughing up blood like my mom did the other day.

I just can't understand how the dysinformation worms its way so deep that these political antivaxxers keep on hurting themselves. The peddlers of lies are straight up evil, as far as I'm concerned.
 

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How do we combat this?

It isn't easy. Because is isn't about just information.

They'll tell you "Do your own research" then tell you not to trust anything hear or read. No one in power can be trusted.

So, you've hit on part of this - trust....

My sister doesn't want the booster, even though, she's had Covid twice. She's heard people have had bad reactions to it. She can't provide specific examples or details.

Because it isn't about proof. It is about the story that grips them most.

Humans like to think of ourselves as highly rational beings. We are certainly not. If we are not careful, we are prisoners of our limbic systems, our emotional reactions to things. Which is why no amount of information you throw at them is going to fix the problem.
 

Humans like to think of ourselves as highly rational beings. We are certainly not. If we are not careful, we are prisoners of our limbic systems, our emotional reactions to things. Which is why no amount of information you throw at them is going to fix the problem.
To amplify this: difficult discussions like “To vax, or not to vax” involve entanglements of both rational and irrational beliefs, and as such, are incredibly difficult to handle, even with relevant training.

My Dad is an immunologist with a MPH. I have trained in mediation, which is a multidisciplinary field that does involve aspects of human psychology. And we have so far not convinced my antivax cousin ( and his kid & GF and her child) of the need to be vaccinated. Unless/until he and those in his inner circle are vaccinated, they’re not going to be able to visit us. (And he really loves my Mom.) I’m not sure a psychotherapist or medical consultant would be able to succeed where we have failed.

Now imagine having this kind of discussion without any training whatsoever, just your personal relationship with the other party to rely on.
 


Really? Here it’s standard in all restaurants.

In my area, they mostly didn't bother with plexiglass between tables, for a number of reasons (there were some really major questions about the effectiveness of those measures, for one thing) Instead, most local towns made various changes in ordinances to allow restaurants to have more outdoor seating.
 





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