Ms Marvel (spoilers)

[DeviousQuail]

Final episode? That was weird, a bit too schmaltzy for my liking, and after last weeks action in Karachi it seemed anticlimatic and disconnected - which I suppose its what happens when you have the Djinn A-Plot and Damage Control B-Plot both having to be resolved seperately.

Agreed. They really needed to bring it back to Jersey before tying up the Djinn stuff. Perhaps a three way standoff between the DoDC, the Djinn, and team Kamala. Najma sacrifices herself to save Kamran from the DoDC. Kamran gets his powers and tries to kill the DoDC. Kamala tries to stop everyone from fighting and helps Kamran escape. DoDC looks bad for trying to kill a girl who is trying to protect people. The end.

Not a great end to a show that was doing really well 2/3 of the way through. There is a bit of a redemption with the mutant tease and Danvers at the end that makes me interested to see more.

 

[Stalker0]

I think the final episode was solid, but it just showcased how weak the last episode was with the Djinn plot being finished so quickly and in such a weird way. I liked the people surrounding Kamala, it had a cool Spiderman 2 vibe (and I mean OG spiderman 2). Kamran wasn't really a villain but just a scared angry kid not really understanding his powers, and I think that worked out well.

I will say can we stop with these weirdly obsessed government agent types? I mean the lead govt lady had to know that the second she disobeyed those direct orders and attacked kids in a public place that her career was done. Why would she risk it....does she have some intense hatred of sups because of some tragedy in her backstory....man wouldn't that be cool to know. But no, instead we get some incredibly generic govt type with no characterization or backstory that once again fires at children. You think after Black Panther and Thanos, Marvel would realize that cool villains are just as important if not more than the heroes themselves to an awesome movie. But....no, sigh.

How the name Ms Marvel came out was also pretty solid, it makes WAY more sense than Carol being called Captain Marvel at this point. I also liked the costume, its sleek, powerful, and pretty but without being too sexual. It also has a nice similarity to Captain Marvel without being a copy.

Episode 5 notwithstanding, overall I was pretty happy with the series.

 

[Ryujin]

I think the final episode was solid, but it just showcased how weak the last episode was with the Djinn plot being finished so quickly and in such a weird way. I liked the people surrounding Kamala, it had a cool Spiderman 2 vibe (and I mean OG spiderman 2). Kamran wasn't really a villain but just a scared angry kid not really understanding his powers, and I think that worked out well.

I will say can we stop with these weirdly obsessed government agent types? I mean the lead govt lady had to know that the second she disobeyed those direct orders and attacked kids in a public place that her career was done. Why would she risk it....does she have some intense hatred of sups because of some tragedy in her backstory....man wouldn't that be cool to know. But no, instead we get some incredibly generic govt type with no characterization or backstory that once again fires at children. You think after Black Panther and Thanos, Marvel would realize that cool villains are just as important if not more than the heroes themselves to an awesome movie. But....no, sigh.

How the name Ms Marvel came out was also pretty solid, it makes WAY more sense than Carol being called Captain Marvel at this point. I also liked the costume, its sleek, powerful, and pretty but without being too sexual. It also has a nice similarity to Captain Marvel without being a copy.

Episode 5 notwithstanding, overall I was pretty happy with the series.

"Success requires no apologies. Failure permits no alibis."

 

[pukunui]

My girls and I all thought it was perfect that her mum gave her the outfit and her dad gave her the name.

Yeah, the quick wrap-up with the Clandestines and the obsessed DoDC lady were a bit weird but overall it was a solid, feel good origin story for Ms Marvel.

I loved Carol’s reaction to finding herself in a fangirl’s bedroom. But now where is Kamala?!

They better do a season 2 that delves into the Noor and the djinn some more. They can’t just leave that hanging like that.

 

[Hex08]

For a show that I had low expectations for, I enjoyed it a lot. Iman Vellani was amazing. That said, I had issues.

One of the things that turned me off from the initial trailer was that some of the cartoonish graphics popping up on screen really reminded me of a kids show but when I actually saw them in the first episode I thought they worked.... and then they disappeared.... and then they came back in the last episode. It was weirdly inconsistent.

I really enjoyed the look into Pakastani culture and was prompted to do some reading on The Partition so kudos to the show for the education. That said, the time spent in Pakistan didn't really seem to add anything to the show that couldn't have happened in New Jersey. All it did was sideline a lot of the supporting characters.

The little bits that led to all of the things that eventually came together for her costume; the broken necklace shaped like a lightning bolt, her getting the scarf, etc. just seemed like too much of a stretch. Almost every bit of her costume came from a scene like that and it was too much. It felt very much like the needless Easter Eggs from Solo: A Star Wars Story.

The threat of the interesting Djinn ending in the penultimate episode only to make the main bad guy in the finale the horrible and uninteresting Agent Deever from Damage Control was also not well thought out.

All of that aside, I am looking forward to seeing Ms. Marvel in The Marvels.

Edited to add --- And making her a mutant seemed a bit strange and out of nowhere. Wasn't being a half-Djinn enough?

 

[Tonguez]

I think the final episode was solid, but it just showcased how weak the last episode was with the Djinn plot being finished so quickly and in such a weird way. I liked the people surrounding Kamala, it had a cool Spiderman 2 vibe (and I mean OG spiderman 2). Kamran wasn't really a villain but just a scared angry kid not really understanding his powers, and I think that worked out well.

Yeah I agree with this and through the whole final episode kept thinking ‘this would have been a cool episode if we didnt have the Karachi portal scene last week’, that Djinn stuff was weird especially when it had no pay off except for the Clandestine getting boned p). I would have preferred for the Portal to have worked and Najma having to redeem herself by saving her son from the Noor backlash (Season 2). - I like DeviousQuails alternative.

And yeah a Damage Control agent needing damage control did feel a bit silly ...

 

[Davies]

I loved Carol’s reaction to finding herself in a fangirl’s bedroom. But now where is Kamala?!

The Negative Zone, probably.

 

[Stalker0]

The little bits that led to all of the things that eventually came together for her costume; the broken necklace shaped like a lightning bolt, her getting the scarf, etc. just seemed like too much of a stretch. Almost every bit of her costume came from a scene like that and it was too much. It felt very much like the needless Easter Eggs from Solo: A Star Wars Story.

Edited to add --- And making her a mutant seemed a bit strange and out of nowhere. Wasn't being a half-Djinn enough?

That's because your looking at the costume backwards. You already know what the costume is, so seeing the pieces of it feels contrived. Well...because it is....when you know the ending, the present always seems a bit contrived.

But if instead you look at it from Kamala and her mother's perspective, each element of the costume has meaning, meaning that developed from Kamala's journey as a hero. Her costume is a symbol to others, but the pieces of it are symbols to Kamala. That's pretty solid to me.


Ultimately the mutant thing will depend on where they go with it. If her being a mutant is intended to matter to her latter stories, fair enough. If they never really do much, than yeah its just a needless drop in to garner false excitement.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

I really enjoyed the look into Pakastani culture and was prompted to do some reading on The Partition so kudos to the show for the education. That said, the time spent in Pakistan didn't really seem to add anything to the show that couldn't have happened in New Jersey. All it did was sideline a lot of the supporting characters.

Because the trip to Pakistan was important in the comic book, plus that is where Red Dagger (comic book person)/the Red Daggers organization (MCU version) are based. Moving all that to the US would have invalidated a lot.

 

[billd91]

The Negative Zone, probably.

That would have interesting implications.