Dragonlance WotC Officially Confirms Takhisis and Tiamat Are The Same

It's been an issue in dispute for decades, over various editions of D&D, but WotC has officially confirmed that - at least in 5E - Dragonlance's Takhisis is, indeed, currently Tiamat. In previous editions, Tiamat has varied from being a big dragon to a minor goddess, while Takhisis has been a greater god on Krynn. At times they've been the same entity, and at others different entities. Today, WotC is putting its foot down and saying that Takhisis and Tiamat are, indeed, the same being.



Of course, this is not an opinion universally held. Dragonlance co-creator Margaret Weis emphatically stated that "TAKHISIS IS NOT TIAMAT, DAMN IT!"

Fizban's Treasuryof Dragons confirms that the beings echo across various settings.

D&D 5E - Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!

According to WotC's James Wyatt, Fizban's Treasury of Dragons introduces a new cosmology for dragon gods, where the same beings, including Fizban, echo across various D&D campaign settings with alternate versions of themselves (presumably like Paladine/Bahamut, or Takhisis/Tiamat). Also... the...

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[Micah Sweet]

If you consider them to be the same, then Tiamat's just as developed as Takhisis - in fact, moreso.

True, but they're only treated as the same when someone asks, or in promotional material. With the exception of the Planescape mention (my preferred theory). In just about every instance where either is involved, the connection between them goes unstated.

 

[Stormonu]

How do we know you aren't just one of Paladine's other accounts ?

<---- Hmmmmm. Maybe because I'm more Thayan?

 

[Bedrockgames]

<---- Hmmmmm. Maybe because I'm more Thayan?

Nice try Paladine

 

[Micah Sweet]

It is different for different editions. At one time there was a notion that deities had different aspects and powers/strength based on their worship within a particular world / crystal sphere. Under this model, FR Tiamat and Krynn Takhisis are different aspects of the same divinity/Power. So killing one, only affects the aspect of that world/CS.

Also, under this model, the total power of a god was the sum total of all aspects across all worlds. That is a reason gods try to be a part of many different pantheons / worlds.

That is the model I prefer.

 

[Demetrios1453]

So in WotC lore, what happened to Bahamut and Tiamat in say Faerun when Raistlin killed them on Krynn?

When the Time of Troubles happened in Faerun did Paladine and Takhisis lose power to? Only if they were on Faerun? Why not planeshift over to Krynn and get your power back?

I know it doesnt matter because the only lore that matters is the 5 pages in the mostly adventure book.

Nothing happened on those other worlds. You can kill a deity - the actual, true deity - on one world, and the (actual, true) deity will still be just fine on other worlds. The modern mindset has to be abandoned here and replaced with the ancient mindset on deities that allowed for those seemingly contradictory statements to be true.

 

[darjr]

I find it hilarious that Tiamat is both more famous and less developed than Takhisis.

They are the same person so….

 

[Aldarc]

Oh! Tiamat is prominent in Critical Role. I’d forgotten about that.

The ironic thing is she’s probably in CR because of Takhisis being in Dragonlance.

Tiamat is a goddess in the 4e Dawn War/World Axis mythos, which was cribbed almost wholesale by Matthew Mercer.

 

[dave2008]

That is the model I prefer.

Me too. Well except for the part about their power is based on their worshipers. I have think deities can gain power from worshipers, but they don't loose power without them.

However, I may rethink that stance a bit for my 5e "Immortals" update

 

[DarkCrisis]

Tiamat is a goddess in the 4e Dawn War/World Axis mythos, which was cribbed almost wholesale by Matthew Mercer.

Matt cribbed a lot of stuff. His Dark Elves are straight out of Mystara.

 

[darjr]

Tiamat is a goddess in the 4e Dawn War/World Axis mythos, which was cribbed almost wholesale by Matthew Mercer.

I thought their shared fandom of Dragonlance helped bring Matt and Joe together?