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Star Wars: Andor

I always watch everything with subs on (I used to live under a flight path and just got used to doing it that way so as to not miss anything) but I still missed what happened. I assumed Andor convinced them that he was also against the empire, it just all seemed to happen pretty quickly.
I'll watch it again at some point I'm sure, I was just wondering if anyone else picked it up.
As others have said, there really wasn't much to it. They convince the Narkinians that they're not Imperials just escaped prisoners. The Narkinians hate how the Imperials have degraded the environment. The talkative Narkinian asks them where they're going to go, Cassian indicates they'll go back to the pleasure world, and then the Narkinians let them take their quadjumper.
 

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It wasn't really anything that they said that convinced them to do so. The aliens were fisherfolk who were understandably upset that the prison factory had killed much of the fish in the waters around it. As such, they were never going to turn anybody over to the prison that they hate so much, but weren't above amusing themselves by scaring the escapees a bit.
The upshot is, "The prisons are destroying our water, so screw them."

Oops, I missed these responses earlier.
Yeah, this was the impression I got, I just thought there might have been a key piece of dialogue that had convinced them that I missed.

Cheers
 

it is a childish fantasy to suggest we will write computer code that magically makes our computers sentient.
your essay on how droids need to have rights is childish and the show is not for children, it is for adults, stick with star trek and mainstream disney, that was designed for you.
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The last episode could have been called "The One Where We Remind You This Is a Star Wars Show". I admit I found it a little jarring. I'm going to have to think about that...
Yeah, that was my thought too. I was immediately reminded about someone's comment a few weeks ago about "And this show doesn't even have laser battles or spaceships!"
 


I think the sentient droids in Star Wars are a problem, and I think it's actually addressed, just not overtly.

I always wondered why the Republic and the Jedi so casually accepted the idea of using cloned humans as a slave army at the start of the Separatist conflict, despite there being laws against slavery within the Republic. I got that it was a desperate time that maybe called for desperate measures, but in most sources it's not even brought up as a point of contention - everyone just goes along with it.

I never really made the connection before, but perhaps the universal pervasiveness of droids had simply made that entire culture predisposed towards accepting the concept of a slave race, to the point that, with only the tiniest of spin, it slipped past any moral objections and became the norm. A lesson in the dangers of becoming comfortable with even artificial subservience.
Kinda exactly what a fellow poster warns us: If you design a slavce race in your fiction, you open up the head space to allow that a sentient seeming being might just be acceptable as slave. This may be possible in fiction, it may be possible in a hypothetical future with machine intelligences. But right now, a sentient - or rather, sapient - being is just another fellow human being and should never be enslaved.

But yeah, the clone troopers were rather easily accepted. As was the idea that Anakin's mother should be okay to stay in slavery. For Star Wars, the question of whether droids are enslaved or just do what they were made to do and are fine with that (or have no capability to be fine or not fine with something) is almost irrelevant because they are already commonly employ slaves - and even the Jedi, supposed to be paragons of virtue and justice, were willing to rely on ready-made combat slaves.

I also think that something like 3POs limitation to not pretend to be god is that much of a sign that he is not sentient. Humans have things they won't do. We wouldn't ask a parent to kill his own child to prove his sentience and that he's not just following some moral programming, heck there are probably some religious people that would also categorally refuse to pretend to be god, too.
 


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