D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Cocaine Bear was vastly cheaper.

30-35 million. It made over double its budget.

So they probably already had the cocaine on hand. That checks out.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

It is now but pre Switch/Wii Mario wasn't so big outside of America.

In 90s for example Sega won outside USA/Japan the Playstation took.

Not saying it's gonna tank but I'm expecting something like 60/40 split maybe higher domestic/foreign.

Much like D&D got more domestically. Comparatively its bigger in America virtually 0 cultural imprint in say China.

Could be completely wrong but that's the logic. There's a 20year gap where Nintendo wasn't that big comparatively outside US.

Mario's gonna be bait to USA Gen Xers with kids and say under 30's. Well IMHO of course.

I can say: Mario and Nintendo was huge in Germany in the late 80s early 90s...

Even I thought about going to the movie because of nostalgia... and I might take my son with me... if he wants or not...

 

[teitan]

It is now but pre Switch/Wii Mario wasn't so big outside of America.

In 90s for example Sega won outside USA/Japan the Playstation took.

Not saying it's gonna tank but I'm expecting something like 60/40 split maybe higher domestic/foreign.

Much like D&D got more domestically. Comparatively its bigger in America virtually 0 cultural imprint in say China.

Could be completely wrong but that's the logic. There's a 20year gap where Nintendo wasn't that big comparatively outside US.

Mario's gonna be bait to USA Gen Xers with kids and say under 30's. Well IMHO of course.

Mario was huge outside the USA before Wii and Switch. I am seriously starting to wonder where you get your ideas.

Mario

Mario is a video game franchise created by Nintendo and Shigeru Miyamoto. The titular protagonist, Mario, is considered the most recognizable video game character of all time, rivalled only by Pac-Man, Sonic and Pikachu. The franchise originates from the arcade platform game Donkey Kong (1981)...

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39 million by 1990, 70 million by 1991. That was the first game. Best selling video game franchise of all time. 396 million units sold overall across all games. Worldwide.

 

[Zardnaar]

Mario was huge outside the USA before Wii and Switch. I am seriously starting to wonder where you get your ideas.

Mario

Mario is a video game franchise created by Nintendo and Shigeru Miyamoto. The titular protagonist, Mario, is considered the most recognizable video game character of all time, rivalled only by Pac-Man, Sonic and Pikachu. The franchise originates from the arcade platform game Donkey Kong (1981)...

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39 million by 1990, 70 million by 1991. That was the first game. Best selling video game franchise of all time. 396 million units sold overall across all games. Worldwide.

I said it wasn't so big not that it didn't do well pay attention.

Nintendo wasn't in 1st place in alot of the world Sega then Playstation was.

They went from some stupidly high % with NES in America to being outsold by Sega Megadrive (Genesis) in a lot of the world. In USA they were behemoth elsewhere they slipped to number two or lost market share to Sega. Then Playstation blew them out.

Once again let's see where the box office dalks. I'm expecting a stronger performance in the USA because of that.

If I'm wrong going by the box office numbers I'll quite happily admit that I'm wrong.

 

[teitan]

Except my OP is specifically about the box office.

John Wick for example made double its budget by week 2.

Streaming not irrelevant but its also a strawman.

I don't think Shazam 2 numbers for example will matter when it hits streaming.



It's box office fate is still gonna determine its streaming success yes? Eg it will determine how much someone's gonna pay for it.

And if Paramount has already paid it doesn't really matter.

Streaming is not a straw man when experts tout it all the time in discussing the performance of a film. A straw man argument is one that doesn’t have weight. Your goal posts are really approaching conspiracy theory, confirmation bias levels of movement on this topic and wanting to draw it back to your original post while also wanting to discuss the prospect of a sequel is counterintuitive. You’re disregarding valuable data that the studios say they look at and use, historic performance of excellent word of mouth films that fit a similar mold and some that even lost money, and then redirecting people back to your original post of “what will it make”. It’s disingenuous. You want to control the conversation but disregard all factors you can’t control.

 

[teitan]

I said it wasn't so big nit that it didn't do well pay attention.

Nintendo wasn't in 1stvplace in alot of the world Sega then Playstation was.

They went from done stupidly high % with NES in America to being outsold by Sega Megadrive (Genesis) in a lot of the world.

Once again let's see where tge box office dalks. I'm expecting a stronger performance in the USA because of that.

If I'm wrong going by the box office numbers I'll quite happily admit that I'm wrong.

The Genesis/Megadrive sold well yes but SNES sold 20 million more units world wide. The Genesis came out in 1988, sold 30 million units. The SNES came out in 1990 and sold 49 million units.

 

[Zardnaar]

The Genesis/Megadrive sold well yes but SNES sold 10 million more units world wide.

I'm aware most of that was due to its dominance in USA and Japan.

I didn't claim the Megadrive outsold it.

 

[teitan]

I'm aware most of that was due to its dominance in USA and Japan.

I didn't claim the Megadrive outsold it.

You kinda are… Mario was literally the pack in game for the SNES.

 

[Zardnaar]

Streaming is not a straw man when experts tout it all the time in discussing the performance of a film. A straw man argument is one that doesn’t have weight. Your goal posts are really approaching conspiracy theory, confirmation bias levels of movement on this topic and wanting to draw it back to your original post while also wanting to discuss the prospect of a sequel is counterintuitive. You’re disregarding valuable data that the studios say they look at and use, historic performance of excellent word of mouth films that fit a similar mold and some that even lost money, and then redirecting people back to your original post of “what will it make”. It’s disingenuous. You want to control the conversation but disregard all factors you can’t control.

Check OP I'm specifically excluding streaming and only looking at the box office.

Main reason is because neither of us can prove anything about streaming
I'm not discounting streaming any agenda or whatever but because neither of us has the numbers. And probably won't get those numbers either.

 

[Zardnaar]

You kinda are… Mario was literally the pack in game for the SNES.

And Sonic was pack in fame on my Megadrive.

What I said was outside USA Nintendo didn’t do as well they got outsold in various markets.

Even in USA I think they were outsold for a while Nintendo pulled ahead later.