Picard Season 3

[Morrus]

But you generally don’t have them in the cockpit do you?

Sure you do. They have windows which are designed to open for emergency evacuation. Pilots need to evacuate too!

And, a spaceship isn’t an airplane. A section of the wall that just can be opened in a spaceship is a spectacularly bad idea.

Only if it can be accidentally opened. I think it's reasonable to assume it has adequate safeguards.

 

[bloodtide]

Maybe some of the blueprints, but certainly not in my 1975 Star Fleet Technical Manual.

I'm thinking the Mr. Scott's Guide

It has the bit from Star Trek II: Remember when Kirk walks onto the simulator after "everyone dies", well he walks in through where the real "escape hatch" would be on a real starship.

 

[Ryujin]

I'm thinking the Mr. Scott's Guide

It has the bit from Star Trek II: Remember when Kirk walks onto the simulator after "everyone dies", well he walks in through where the real "escape hatch" would be on a real starship.

That was after the refit

 

[bloodtide]

That was after the refit

If you want to get technical..... The Bridge is a 'plug and play' component that can be removed(it's why we always see a different bridge for some ships). But the base, where the emergency doors are, is part of the spaceframe.

There are at least a couple printings of Mr. Scotts guide......I'm sure one has the "now updated with stuff from Star Trek II" or such on the cover.

 

[MarkB]

If you want to get technical..... The Bridge is a 'plug and play' component that can be removed(it's why we always see a different bridge for some ships).

Makes sense. After at least two or three of those consoles have exploded, it's cheaper to just rip out the whole unit and plug in a new one.

...and now I want to see a Lower Decks episode where some Ferengi has a bunch of second-hand starship bridges on sale.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I thought this might amuse some - 1987 internet reactions to Star Trek: TNG - it is not terribly well-received. Featuring possibly the first person on the internet to say "This isn't Star Trek!".

 

[Ryujin]

I thought this might amuse some - 1987 internet reactions to Star Trek: TNG - it is not terribly well-received. Featuring possibly the first person on the internet to say "This isn't Star Trek!".

This is why, unless something is particularly egregious ("The Ark"), you give it a chance. "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" was hot garbage, but it was all that we had in almost a decade.

 

[Hussar]

This is why, unless something is particularly egregious ("The Ark"), you give it a chance. "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" was hot garbage, but it was all that we had in almost a decade.

Funnily enough, on rewatch, St:TMP isn't all that bad. It's obviously leaning heavily on stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey, but, overall? It's actually a pretty solid movie. It just wasn't what people expected I think. Too cerebral and not enough action.

 

[Ryujin]

Funnily enough, on rewatch, St:TMP isn't all that bad. It's obviously leaning heavily on stuff like 2001 A Space Odyssey, but, overall? It's actually a pretty solid movie. It just wasn't what people expected I think. Too cerebral and not enough action.

It was more the revolving door of SFX companies and the 30 minutes of going "Ooooooo.... Ahhhhhhh...." over the new Enterprise, that rankled.

 

[Hussar]

You have an ejector seat in the cockpit. The entire saucer section on Federation ships is a giant ejector seat.

You have ejector seats in the cockpit of a FIGHTER. There aren't ejector seats in the overwhelming majority of aircraft. I really wouldn't compare the Enterprise (any version) to an F-16. Not really very similar.

Anyway, like I said, it's a nitpick. I enjoyed the episode. Although another nit-pick does occur to me. Geordie talks about how Data can't kill people. But, he had zero problems flat out murdering several people on the bridge when there was zero reason to do so. If you have control of the ship, you can simply use the transporters. Or drop a force field around them. Or increase the gravity locally and immobilize them. Or flood the area with gas. Or... or... or...

Blowing them out the door and straight up murdering them, then blowing the ship afterwards? No attempt to take out their engines. Nothing. Flat out killing every single person on the enemy ship when their shields were down and you had multiple options.

Not very Federation.