mamba
Legend
that sounds like wishful thinking, care to explain how you arrive at that?
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D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?
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Jaeger
That someone better
Well, the number's not wrong.
D&DHaT has done $202,537,000 worldwide.
But that is about half of what it needs at the box office just to break even.
It's already up for VOD rentals/sales. So it's theatre run is dead.
The best hope for D&D fans for a sequel is that the film becomes a fan favorite like 2013 Pacific Rim.
Zardnaar
Legend
Percentage wise it's had great legs very small drop off.
Big problem though was week 1 needed to be close to double.
Myrdin Potter
Hero
I thought the movie was good and glad I went to go see it. Unfortunately, not enough people agreed and it did poorly at the box office.
I think that as much as Mistwell put up a formula, there generally is a correlation between the value for streaming and box office performance. We are now leaving the strange and bad times when Covid kept us home and streaming was everything and back in more regular times when the box office matters.
A lot of companies are easing off on the spending for streaming as well.
Funny enough, I think the movie did well enough to lead to shows or made for streaming sequels where the budget can be tightly controlled.
I think that as much as Mistwell put up a formula, there generally is a correlation between the value for streaming and box office performance. We are now leaving the strange and bad times when Covid kept us home and streaming was everything and back in more regular times when the box office matters.
A lot of companies are easing off on the spending for streaming as well.
Funny enough, I think the movie did well enough to lead to shows or made for streaming sequels where the budget can be tightly controlled.
jerryrice4949
Legend
I don’t think saying it has done poorly at the box office is an accurate characterization. It has done ok (fair or average work as well). It has not done great but neither has it done poorly.
Jaeger
That someone better
True, but...
The problem with relying on streaming revenue to make up the box-office gap in the case of the D&D film, is the streaming service that it is going to:
Paramount+
Paramount Streaming Loss Widens to $511M as Paramount+ Hits 60M Subs
The company takes $1.67 billion in programming charges and cuts its dividend as quarterly results miss Wall Street expectations and TV advertising drops 11 percent.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
There is no magic formula that will have D&D 'making money' for Paramount+ while it is currently hemorrhaging more cash than D&D cost to make several times over...
The only hope for D&DHat fans is that it does really well with VOD/rental, dvd sales. Goes on to become a fan favorite like Pacific rim, where you may get a lower budget sequel sometime down the road.
It's absolutely accurate. We have the numbers.
Doing ok/fair/average would require it to actually make money.
Did it outright bomb like Shazam 2 ?
No.
But it also came only halfway to breaking even at the box office. It Flopped.
There's just no way to spin that as a positive box office performance.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad
Look, that isn't accurate. I usually say you're using the outdated pre-pandemic formula, but even under that formula you would have been wrong.
That is also not how that works. Movies are usually both streaming VOD and in theaters at the same time. To demonstrate, I just asked Google where it's playing near me tomorrow, and nine theaters came up near me. Checking the two we go to most often, it's playing four times at each of those two theaters tomorrow.
Naw I am pretty sure the studio is already heading in that direction. They made money on this one. The streaming portion pushes it into the black (and I don't even mean VOD).
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bedir than
Full Moon Storyteller
I know people keep bringing up this headline as some kind of gotchya, but reality is that Paramount said their 2023 will spend more money on streaming, not less.True, but...
The problem with relying on streaming revenue to make up the box-office gap in the case of the D&D film, is the streaming service that it is going to:
Paramount+
Paramount Streaming Loss Widens to $511M as Paramount+ Hits 60M Subs
The company takes $1.67 billion in programming charges and cuts its dividend as quarterly results miss Wall Street expectations and TV advertising drops 11 percent.
There is no magic formula that will have D&D 'making money' for Paramount+ while it is currently hemorrhaging more cash than D&D cost to make several times over...
The full story shows exactly how Paramount+ and Showtime show profitability for Honor Among Thives.
The head of Paramount wants to continue to boost signups and renewals, while also spending more on original programming. They also have Pluto for ad based revenue from the same content.
It doesn't take much. There's at least 80 million paid subs on their platforms. They just need to claim 1% of those renew because of Honor Among Thieves will crediting 10% of signups to the same. That's how their math demonstrates Honor Among Thieves, a property they liked so much they paid tens of millions to Hasbro for the TV series and signed First Rights with Daley+Goldstein, makes them money.
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