D&D General 50th Anniversary- Are You Not Entertained?

[DarkCrisis]

Hasbro just got done firing a bunch of people and is broke. What do you guys want? Just be thankful you are even getting a new (half) edition maybe sometime this year.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Hasbro just got done firing a bunch of people and is broke. What do you guys want? Just be thankful you are even getting a new (half) edition maybe sometime this year.

Marketing is the kind of thing that companies can and do outsource to a bunch of bright-eyed and bushy-tailed 20somethings.

This comes down to a lack of desire, not resources.

 

[DarkCrisis]

Marketing is the kind of thing that companies can and do outsource to a bunch of bright-eyed and bushy-tailed 20somethings.

This comes down to a lack of desire, not resources.

I forgot to add "/sarcasm" to my post.

 

[GrimCo]

To be fair, 2023 was only year in Hasbro had negative net revenue but positive EBITDA (0.605 bilion $). In 2022, EBITDA was 1.477 bilion $ and net revenue was 200 milion $. By all metrics, they are far from broke. Also, they do have decline in net revenue, they also have decline in liabilities.

They did fire bunch of people. But, looking at their WoTC marketing team and how abysmally bad they are are marketing to general public, they should probably fire whole marketing department. I don't know how it's over the pond, but there isn't much of marketing to consumers here in EU.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

They did fire bunch of people. But, looking at their WoTC marketing team and how abysmally bad they are are marketing to general public, they should probably can whole marketing department.

It would not be impossible that the marketing people do know what they're doing, but they report to someone who doesn't value marketing and thwarts them, but isn't able to zero out the department. I think a lot of us have seen this dynamic happen in their workplaces.

 

[GrimCo]

Let's be honest. WoTC has one golden goose. MtG. It is literaly their money printer. We jokingly call it paper cocaine ( as it's cheaper to be cocaine addict than MtG addict). TTRPGs are at their core, cheap hobby. Very cheap hobby. If you fork out 200e for core rulebook box set, you are good to go. No need to buy anything else, ever. And I really think that their marketing and sales people struggle how to better monetize D&D.

 

[bedir than]

One thing I'm surprised they aren't doing is hosting monthly one shots with Big Famous Former Players (Hollywood, Silicon Valley and Sports are full of them).

Heck, do the same adventure (maybe one of the free ones they have at DnDBeyond/play) every time just to show that different stories rise at different tables.

 

[Dragonhelm]

Where is the setting? A reboot of Greyhawk? Or a real FR setting? Either with an actual map?

If there was any year to do a Greyhawk sourcebook, it would be this year. I can maybe see a portion of it covered in the Vecna book, but not enough to cover the setting as a whole.

Likewise, we haven't seen a full Realms sourcebook in quite some time.

The new DMG is supposed to have a setting, but I imagine it will be something smaller and basic. Nentir Vale is the perfect one to include.

 

[CleverNickName]

Let's be honest. WoTC has one golden goose. MtG. It is literaly their money printer. We jokingly call it paper cocaine ( as it's cheaper to be cocaine addict than MtG addict). TTRPGs are at their core, cheap hobby. Very cheap hobby. If you fork out 200e for core rulebook box set, you are good to go. No need to buy anything else, ever. And I really think that their marketing and sales people struggle how to better monetize D&D.

I mean, nobody is obligated to keep buying new Magic cards either. I still play M:tG every Monday night with my buddies, and I haven't bought so much as a booster pack since Innistrad. My Aether Flash Lock deck from 2004 still beats the stuffing out of whatever newfangled Adapt or Riot mechanics my buddies try to roll out.

 

[GrimCo]

No, but if you want to be competitive, you need to fork out some serious cash. Since it's competitive game, oposed to colaborative, people fork over cash to stay competitive, even on their local store tournaments. Yeah, with my friends, i can whip out my old 6/7th edition era cards. But in most formats, those are outdated cards not longer legal in tournament play.

One way of monetization similar to MtG would be pay to play sub classes and classes outside PHB in Adventurers League, plus, if you wanna play, you must buy PHB. Too bad that Adventurer league is only alive in USA and maybe UK.