Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[el-remmen]

All these stealth threads failed their stealth checks.

 

[payn]

Yeah I am not saying you can't see this stuff at large venues. I am saying it isn't part of the mainstream culture like it is when it is on major radio stations and it isn't as broadly shared (i.e. when was the last time an album landed massively like Appetite for Destruction?). I just don't get the impression there are these massive rock bands the way there used to be. Which isn't to say there isn't good rock music coming out. It is just saying things feel quite different from the MTV days

Appetite for Destruction? Going back a lot more than 5 years we are. There hasnt been an album selling over 10-15 million since the 90's. You are looking for a time machine for sure.

 

[trappedslider]

Appetite for Destruction? Going back a lot more than 5 years we are. There hasnt been an album selling over 10-15 million since the 90's. You are looking for a time machine for sure.

huh, I looked up last year and before doing that I would have said Taylor's album sold that much and looking deep you'd only have to go to 2011 for Adele's 21. man tech has changed so much looks up old folks homes

EDIT: I will say if not for youtube I wouldn't have a few bands that are no longer bands

 

[payn]

huh, I looked up last year and before doing that I would have said Taylor's album sold that much and looking deep you'd only have to go to 2011 for Adele's 25. man tech has changed so much looks up old folks homes

EDIT: I will say if not for youtube I wouldn't have a few bands that are no longer bands

Check again.

 

[trappedslider]

Check again.

typo face palm Adel's 21 sold 18.1 million
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[Bedrockgames]

Appetite for Destruction? Going back a lot more than 5 years we are. There hasnt been an album selling over 10-15 million since the 90's. You are looking for a time machine for sure.

Well I am almost 50 so my memories of big albums are a bit old lol. It was the first album that leapt to mind. But I was thinking more in terms of the albums impact and airplay than whether it sold over 10 million. Another thing that is different is albums overall do seem to have less impact but that is a whole other discussion. But it doens' even have to rise to the level of appetite. I remember pretty big albums from Linkin Park and System of a Down in the 2000s, as well as bands like My Chemical Romance. Granted not 15 million copies but still in the millions, still on teh radio, still something people were broadly being exposed to. By the way this isn't an attack on new music. It is more about the health of the rock landscape in the mainstream culture. My point is just that rap, hip-hop, country, these all have a level of exposure that rock hasn't had in some time. I enjoyed having rock on the radio on TV as more than just classic hits. Obviously some of this is technology is changing.

typo face palm Adel's 21 sold 18.1 million
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The lists on that page are kind of hard to read IMO lol. That other album 25 looks like it still did pretty good (17.4 million isn't too bad at all). Especially when you look at how low most other albums were by comparison in those decades.

 

[payn]

Well I am almost 50 so my memories of big albums are a bit old lol. It was the first album that leapt to mind. But I was thinking more in terms of the albums impact and airplay than whether it sold over 10 million. Another thing that is different is albums overall do seem to have less impact but that is a whole other discussion. But it doens' even have to rise to the level of appetite. I remember pretty big albums from Linkin Park and System of a Down in the 2000s, as well as bands like My Chemical Romance. Granted not 15 million copies but still in the millions, still on teh radio, still something people were broadly being exposed to. By the way this isn't an attack on new music. It is more about the health of the rock landscape in the mainstream culture. My point is just that rap, hip-hop, country, these all have a level of exposure that rock hasn't had in some time. I enjoyed having rock on the radio on TV as more than just classic hits. Obviously some of this is technology is changing.

I think you are overstating the mainstream of anything. The reason Adele and Swift are so notable is that nobody is selling albums like that anymore. Everything is viral for a hot min and if you are lucky maybe a year. There are no stations pumping out new stuff, a channel dedicated to new stuff, sam goody with posters in the window of new stuff, etc.. All the money is made on single streams and advertisements and mostly tours. If you are not an active listener, you wont be up on things by being passive anymore.

The lists on that page are kind of hard to read IMO lol. That other album 25 looks like it still did pretty good (17.4 million isn't too bad at all). Especially when you look at how low most other albums were by comparison in those decades.

The point is there is only an appetite for destruction of any kind every 5 to 10 years now.

 

[trappedslider]

The point is there is only an appetite for destruction of any kind every 5 to 10 years now.

my appetite for destruction only appears when i play Simcity while in a bad mood.

 

[Umbran]

I am saying it isn't part of the mainstream culture like it is when it is on major radio stations and it isn't as broadly shared (i.e. when was the last time an album landed massively like Appetite for Destruction?). I just don't get the impression there are these massive rock bands the way there used to be.

The "album" is no longer the basic unit of consumer music consumption, so you can't really use sales of albums to discern how large a part of mainstream culture music is.

 

[Bedrockgames]

The "album" is no longer the basic unit of consumer music consumption, so you can't really use sales of albums to discern how large a part of mainstream culture music is.

That is fair. And one of the other big changes I think in music. But you could take away albums and just say when was the last time a rock band blew up like that. There were still bands in the 2000s getting big. I feel like maybe a few in the early 2010s. But rock overall just doesn't seem as relevant (and again this isn't a knock against the current state of music: crooners aren't culturally relevant the way they used to be ether, music changes). Personally I liked the era of rock radio, big rock albums, and being able to discover new rock bands on the radio. But I also understand times change (even as a guitar player I can even see how rock might be played out or at least need a rest from mainstream culture)