D&D (2024) I have the DMG. AMA!

[DinoInDisguise]

Dude, now you got me hungry for some pasta in a can.

I hope you eat it cold out of the can with a spoon. We, up here, call that "Spahgoo." At my old job, the number of people eating cold canned pasta in the break room was deeply disturbing.

 

[Nefermandias]

Read through some published adventures or just watch some action movies for inspiration.

Don't get me wrong. I am not asking for advice here nor I need any pointers from where to get "inspiration". We are discussing here the contents and merits of the new DMG, stop making it about my game.

Just for the record, I have read through dozens of published adventures and not all of them are about time pressure. Most notably, Storm King's Thunder in a negative example of such. Perkins even says in it's intro that the campaign is supposed to have a slower pace and the primary focus is exploration and overland travel. Those are precisely the kind of game that would benefit heavily from alternate resting rules.

We are derailing the thread here, so I won't talk any further about the topic. I believe it will suffice to say that you (and others here) are completely missing @Crimson Longinus and my point.

 

[Hatmatter]

On that note....

My PHB arrived yesterday. I only got 20 pages into it when reading last night, but I noticed that it was much clearer in organization than the 2014 edition, and the language was more conversational without having me flip back and forth throughout the book. In fact, it reminded me quite a bit of Cook's 2nd Edition PHB, where he had a little conversation going through the book on how you do things, and what you might want to do with optional rules.

My DMG question, as I have to wait until the 14th for it, is this: Does this conversational and gentle but clear tone carry into the DMG? One of my most significant frustrations with 2014 was the (un)natural language used.

I was reading the new DMG last night, Deganawida. It is very well written. Very well organized. I would say it continues the tone of the new PHB.

It would be neat to know what Wizard's three-to-five year plan might be for releases. If, for example, they are planning (or actively developing) a book or two that addresses some of what is not in the DMG, then that would address some concerns expressed here.

For example, with regard to the PHB, I have assumed all along that we will, in fairly short order, get revised versions of the four wizard subclasses and a number of the cleric subclasses that were not in the 2024 PHB. If that would turn out not to be the case, their absence would be a huge disappointment to me. But, I highly doubt that is the case, so it is merely a matter of time...and I can wait. I feel that way about a few of the absences from the DMG.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

That’s a pretty ahistorical take on how D&D progressed during the 70s and 80s.

Do you think it’s elitist that people play Call of Cthulhu? Is Chaosium being elitist or a failure for not having gone public? How about companies that fund products via BackerKit or Kickstarter?

Being elitist is something people grow into as they get old, not how they start out. The attitude to younger players on this forum really is terrible. But then that reflects society as a whole. By the way people talk, anyone would think "Generation Z" where lazy, stupid, good-for-nothing scum, not what we were 40-50 years ago (only with less money).

 

[Hatmatter]

I hope you eat it cold out of the can with a spoon. We, up here, call that "Spahgoo." At my old job, the number of people eating cold canned pasta in the break room was deeply disturbing.

Count me in, Dino. It disgusts my wife.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

So what does the lore dictionary (or the rest of the DMG) say about Asmodeus?

Nothing in the lore dictionary. He is featured greatly in the Cosmology section under the Nine Hells, though!

Would you like me to reproduce some morsels?

 

[mamba]

Sure, and they failed to expand the hobby because they were not publicly traded.

this sounds like something someone with no knowledge of the history of TSR would say, or private and publicly traded companies and their respective successes / failures

D&D remained a tiny, extremely elitist, hobby. Which is why, I suspect, there are people who want those days back.

it was so elitist that I went to a store as a teen and bought the books to play with my friends, hard to imagine something more elitist than that

With the premise being utter nonsense, we can safely ignore the conclusion too…

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Being elitist is something people grow into as they get old, not how they start out. The attitude to younger players on this forum really is terrible. But then that reflects society as a whole. By the way people talk, anyone would think "Generation Z" where lazy, stupid, good-for-nothing scum, not what we were 40-50 years ago (only with less money).

Huh. My kids have WAY MORE MONEY than I did at their age.

 

[Xenolith234]

Huh. My kids have WAY MORE MONEY than I did at their age.

Unrelated to thread, but they/we also have way more debt and higher costs of goods (housing costs?!)

 

[TiQuinn]

Being elitist is something people grow into as they get old, not how they start out. The attitude to younger players on this forum really is terrible. But then that reflects society as a whole. By the way people talk, anyone would think "Generation Z" where lazy, stupid, good-for-nothing scum, not what we were 40-50 years ago (only with less money).

This has nothing to do with anything I’ve stated.