Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

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Here in NZ, Guy Fawkes is literally just an excuse to make noise. I doubt most Kiwis even know who Guy Fawkes was. Last night, the fireworks were rather pathetic (especially compared to the Diwali celebrations two weeks ago). Maybe they've gotten too expensive? It's way past time NZ banned personal fireworks anyway, though ...

When I went visited the States last year, I was astounded to find my home state (PA) had unbanned personal fireworks!

 

[gnarlygninja]

Same player who was super late for last weeks game: cancels an hour before the game
This is a habit with him.

 

[Scribe]

Same player who was super late for last weeks game: cancels an hour before the game
This is a habit with him.

 

[pukunui]

My fixed term home loan is due for renewal. The rates are considerably lower, but I'm not sure if I want to stick with 18 months or go with something longer. Interest rates are unlikely to go much lower than they are now, so it's really a question of whether things will remain relatively flat or jump back up. Sigh ...

 

[Pale Violet Light]

Same player who was super late for last weeks game: cancels an hour before the game
This is a habit with him.

Kill him and take his stuff.

 

[Scribe]

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So, as I've noted before, I am at least 'hippy adjacent'. I take supplements, I believe in, and have used successfully, a lot of natural products for various things and believe that if the science was applied to these things, and not just massive pharma corps, it would be proven that we can make peoples lives better in a natural way.

That said, if you travel in these circles, you come across some really weird people.

That is all.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I take supplements, I believe in, and have used successfully, a lot of natural products for various things and believe that if the science was applied to these things, and not just massive pharma corps, it would be proven that we can make peoples lives better in a natural way.

To be fair, a goodly chunk of at least the old pharmaceuticals are just refined and precisely measured versions of old folk/herbalist remedies. Their processing efforts make it much easier to get to therapeutic dosages safely while reducing risks of accidental overdoses or interactions with other substances within the unrefined natural remedies.

 

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To be fair, a goodly chunk of at least the old pharmaceuticals are just refined and precisely measured versions of old folk/herbalist remedies. Their processing efforts make it much easier to get to therapeutic dosages safely while reducing risks of accidental overdoses or interactions with other substances within the unrefined natural remedies.

and mixed with cocaine

 

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[Umbran]

So, as I've noted before, I am at least 'hippy adjacent'. I take supplements, I believe in, and have used successfully, a lot of natural products for various things and believe that if the science was applied to these things, and not just massive pharma corps, it would be proven that we can make peoples lives better in a natural way.

My wife is a veterinarian, who is also trained in herbal medicine.

What Danny notes is important -

1) Loads of our pharmaceuticals are still discovered from natural sources. GLP-1s, the current super-seller class of drugs, were originally found in the saliva of gila monsters, after noting that even though they eat super big meals infrequently, their blood sugar doesn't vary much at all...

2) When you source a drug in nature, mass producing directly from that source is often a problem. Like you just can't get a gila monster farm, let the buggers drool in cups, and then ingest or inject the results, much less produce enough for everyone who wants or needs it. Artificial mass production is usually in order.

3) A huge problem with natural remedies is dosage, which isn't easy to control if you just grow and dry an herb, or make a tincture, or the like. The natural form can have a wide range of content of the materials you actually want - and the range of dose that actually works is often kind of narrow - to little and it does nothing, too much and it is a poison.

4) Another huge problem with natural remedies is purity - making sure you are getting the stuff you want, and nothing you don't want. Like, sure, I grew this lavender in this tea myself! Organically in my own garden! ... right next to my organic bird feeder... so there's a lot of organic bird poop in there as well...

Not to say that our approach to pharmaceuticals isn't in bad shape. But having folks who make pure, regulated medicinals is necessary once you aren't in a little house on the prairie