Matthew The Mage
First Post
Baraendur said:
Thanks i put that picture on the boards.
I thought it was also much better than the 3armed guy.
I mean it was a good picture but the skull just kinda fits better.
-
The VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
I know but... e-tool = crap
- Thread starter noretoc
- Start date
Thanks i put that picture on the boards.
I thought it was also much better than the 3armed guy.
I mean it was a good picture but the skull just kinda fits better.
Matthew The Mage
First Post
It has been 6 days and no update to his thread.
Lets all email him till he gives us and answer.
Lets all email him till he gives us and answer.
Matthew The Mage
First Post
Therigwin said:
Our's is good also.
Your is pretty good.
The Skull is cool.
But I thought that showing characters (since eTools is all about characters) was more inspiring.
I would have prefered if they would have rendered the Drider and put that on the cover, that would have been cool.
I am almost tempted to use the DM Screen JPG they included, if I had a 21 inch monitor.
The Skull is cool.
But I thought that showing characters (since eTools is all about characters) was more inspiring.
I would have prefered if they would have rendered the Drider and put that on the cover, that would have been cool.
I am almost tempted to use the DM Screen JPG they included, if I had a 21 inch monitor.
[[ Where do you get your "fact"? If you're so in the know, why then haven't you produced the thing yourself, and ages ago? Trust me, it seems very easy until you actually try it. ]]
--You want to pay me to do it?
--If you don't agree with my "facts," don't agree with them.
[[ No, the fact is that duplicating the functionality of eTools would be a bare minimum 3-month fulltime project, and only for a very talented programmer. ]]
--Yup. And then, if you're a good little consultant, you double it. So I said 6 months.
--Don't believe that I'm a talented programmer? Ok, don't.
[[ Saying you can build it better only shows that you have an inflated ego and doesn't help any of us that do want a better product. ]]
--Aha. So if somebody asserts superiority, they must actually be inferior. How charmingly leftist of you.
--It's not that useful to demand proof that takes 6 months. It's actually fairly disingenuous. Basically what it amounts to is me saying "I can prove my case given six months." You're saying "given six months you'd only be proven wrong." We both need 6 months to prove our cases, only you want to assume you're right now.
--Not that I blame you. Most people overinflate their abilities, and to assume that the random person on the notesboard is doing so is totally justified. But don't presume that it's much of a proof. It's just as likely that Fluid overestimated the difficulties that faced them as it is that I overestimate my abilities to overcome difficulty. After all, I'm not the one that's shown a strong commitment to slipping timelines, and dropped features.
--And what about those of us who want a better product?
--This thread is meant to evaluate the usefulness of the e-tools product, and possibly to decide if it's as much as we can expect from such a product.
--I'd wager it's not. I told you why I'd wager it's not. If you don't agree, then that answers the question for you. I don't need to prove anything.
--You want to pay me to do it?
--If you don't agree with my "facts," don't agree with them.
[[ No, the fact is that duplicating the functionality of eTools would be a bare minimum 3-month fulltime project, and only for a very talented programmer. ]]
--Yup. And then, if you're a good little consultant, you double it. So I said 6 months.
--Don't believe that I'm a talented programmer? Ok, don't.
[[ Saying you can build it better only shows that you have an inflated ego and doesn't help any of us that do want a better product. ]]
--Aha. So if somebody asserts superiority, they must actually be inferior. How charmingly leftist of you.
--It's not that useful to demand proof that takes 6 months. It's actually fairly disingenuous. Basically what it amounts to is me saying "I can prove my case given six months." You're saying "given six months you'd only be proven wrong." We both need 6 months to prove our cases, only you want to assume you're right now.
--Not that I blame you. Most people overinflate their abilities, and to assume that the random person on the notesboard is doing so is totally justified. But don't presume that it's much of a proof. It's just as likely that Fluid overestimated the difficulties that faced them as it is that I overestimate my abilities to overcome difficulty. After all, I'm not the one that's shown a strong commitment to slipping timelines, and dropped features.
--And what about those of us who want a better product?
--This thread is meant to evaluate the usefulness of the e-tools product, and possibly to decide if it's as much as we can expect from such a product.
--I'd wager it's not. I told you why I'd wager it's not. If you don't agree, then that answers the question for you. I don't need to prove anything.
Cergorach
The Laughing One
Stop saying that, either finance a new attempt yourself, or make a new attempt yourself. Anything else is just a waste of words and frankly, my time.Vicegrip said:
This thread is only meant for our amusement, the person who started it contributed absolutely nothing usefull. The rest of us where just making fun of him, repeatedly. The only reason why we keep returning to this thread is to keep it on top so that no one else spews these kinds of useless arguments. But for some reason you don't see that, so instead of trying to make a better rpg tool, you might want to get away from that computer screen and get out a bit and work on your social skills so the next time you read a thread like this you've learned to read between the lines. Now bugger off!
*gets off his tomato crate and dusts of his pants*
Anyone else wants a swing at him? ;-p
Fast Learner
First Post
How can I agree with your "facts?" How can anyone who's a programmer. You specifically said, and I quote, "The fact is, using a database and a web scripting language, you can rapidly crank out stuff that can do anything e-tools purports to do." So six months is "rapidly crank out"? (Note that your "6 month" figure was only posted after I had replied.) How is that "rapidly crank(ing) out" anything? Do you consider half a year of programming to be trivial, something that is "crank(ed) out"?Vicegrip said:
Your seeming lack of ability to use quote tags does, indeed, lead me to question your talent, along with your considering six months of programming a "rapidly crank(ed) out" effort.
I don't get where you're coming from. Are you claiming that Jamis' NPC generators do what eTools does? You certainly no longer seem to be claiming that the programming is trivial, so what's your deal there? You haven't used the application and you haven't tried to program it, so where does your scoffing come from? How can you just base your rant on other people's rants? I don't get it. I understand the application doesn't do what you want it to do. Where does the rest of your stuff come from?
CRGreathouse
Community Supporter
Sm!rk said:
Vicegrip said:
dpdx said:
I'm not seing much logic in any of these, frankly.
Similar Threads
