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D&D 5E My Crazy Theory about 2015 5e

DMZ2112

Chaotic Looseleaf
Was it a bare bones kind of chart with little "instruction" on all the different ways it could be applied or used? Sure. But for what it was there for (just giving DMs a good basis for an average attack roll or damage by level) it more than served its purpose.

With the caveat that what follows is a dissenting opinion and nothing more: it was one page. In previous editions, entire hardback books had been written on /fractions/ of the ruleset that Page 42 replaces wholesale.

It's obvious why there is such bile over this small point -- some people value having multiple hardbacks full of detailed crunch, and others think it gets in the way. Both opinions are legitimate, and dammit, each of us is always right!

The only reason I brought it up was to defend /D&D5/ against accusations of incompleteness. D&D5 has rules covering a myriad of situations but these rules are open to interpretation. D&D4 required you to adjudicate most non-standard situations using a provided hard-coded table of numbers. There's nothing inherently wrong about either of these designs, but in my opinion D&D5 is more complete as a result. Which is why I brought it up as a point of comparison.

So much so that we had complaints here on the boards that a similar breakdown of "expected attacks and damage" for 5E was not in the MM because it would have helped folks design their own monsters and such.

It might surprise you to know that I agree that the table is conspicuously missing from D&D5. I suspect that the designers thought that the much smaller range of d20 and damage rolls in D&D5 makes it much easier to suss out than it was in D&D4, but the table would still be a welcome addition.
 

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Kramodlog

Naked and living in a barrel
No. In a big corporation, profit =/= spending money.
I know, but a lot of people on these forums have said something like that. I'm to show them flaws in their reasoning.

Why is this still surprsing people? Wizards has been openly saying this is the new Hasbro D&D business model for more than a year, now. As long as it works, it's not a bad thing.
Depends your more interested in D&D books than swag. Is the community enough interested in swag to sustain a brand that doesn't make much RPG?
 




Kramodlog

Naked and living in a barrel
Classic internet trope: a faceless person trying to change the mind of other faceless people by explaining the error of their ways.
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DMZ2112

Chaotic Looseleaf
Depends your more interested in D&D books than swag. Is the community enough interested in swag to sustain a brand that doesn't make much RPG?

Hasbro is banking on brand visibility making people who would never play the RPG buy swag. I'm not saying it doesn't sound ridiculous to me, but I am not a marketing or branding expert. That said, I have seen humans buy a lot of stupid, worthless crap in my day.


Best thread ever.
 

Kramodlog

Naked and living in a barrel
Hasbro is banking on brand visibility making people who would never play the RPG buy swag. I'm not saying it doesn't sound ridiculous to me, but I am not a marketing or branding expert. That said, I have seen humans buy a lot of stupid, worthless crap in my day.

I'd believe it if a movie was on the way, but the lawsuit over the rights have the potential to go to the supreme court and that could take years before it is settled. And it might not settle in Hasbro's favor. Right now the approach seems questionable.
 

DMZ2112

Chaotic Looseleaf
I'd believe it if a movie was on the way, but the lawsuit over the rights have the potential to go to the supreme court and that could take years before it is settled. And it might not settle in Hasbro's favor. Right now the approach seems questionable.

If Hasbro and Sweetpea are not already in settlement talks, you could knock me over with a feather.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Hasbro and Warner Bros. now, WB bought out Sweetpea for five million dollars.

Sooo, at least one major studio thinks they can get at least five million out of the property. Time will tell.
 

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