D&D General Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access

Aldarc

Legend

• Oct 10, 2020

• #61

Horwath said:

yes you can.

we played 4 player NWN2 at a lan party. a few centuries ago, haha

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So, case in point, the most feasible way to play a RTwP game with multiplayer requires a lan party? Is this why nearly all RTwP CRPGs are single-player? Do you not think that multiplayer streaming is a big potential draw for designing BG3 as a TB game?

 

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MarkB

Legend

• Oct 10, 2020

• #62

Aldarc said:

So, case in point, the most feasible way to play a RTwP game with multiplayer requires a lan party? Is this why nearly all RTwP CRPGs are single-player? Do you not think that multiplayer streaming is a big potential draw for designing BG3 as a TB game?

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To be fair, most RTwP games have had perfectly functional multiplayer modes, including the original Baldur's Gate games.

Yes, it can be annoying that the host gets to pause whenever, but only if they're being an ass about it, and the advantage of controlling only 1-2 characters each instead of a full party is that you can generally keep up with the action without pausing.

I had a great time playing multiplayer Icewind Dale 2 back in the day, and that was over a much slower internet connection than anything available today.

Turn based is a different experience, and one I tend to prefer, but let's not make up problems. The old Baldur's Gate games popularised co-operative multiplayer RPGs, and Neverwinter Nights was built around it.

 

Stefano Rinaldelli

Hero

• Oct 10, 2020

• #63

Horwath said:

no one said that they didn't put huge amount of hours into the game, and I hope for BG as a franchise that this game will be a hit, but do not say that is not easier to code turn base combat than real-time.

It might be their design choice, it might be that they had huge success with DOS, so they kept to their recipe and didn't want to take a chance on different design.

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Personally, starting from the fact that BG3 is not a game intended to challenge your speed of movement with mouse and your extreme knowledge of the interface, i definitely prefer turn based.
if you add to this that D&D is turn based, then what are we talking about?
If INCIDENTALLY, coding turn based is less complicate than real time, is it a larian fault?

 

Paul Farquhar

Legend

• Oct 10, 2020

• #64

Stefano Rinaldelli said:

If INCIDENTALLY, coding turn based is less complicate than real time,

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It isn't.

 

Iry

Hero

• Oct 10, 2020

• #65

Breaking news. Larian discovers players create very bland characters. Stay tuned for next update where we discover most players pick human fighter.

 

Bolares

Hero

• Oct 10, 2020

• #66

one big upside of turn based rpgs is that they can make more elaborate traps, that don't rely on hand dexteruty and cordination.

 

Oofta

Legend

• Oct 10, 2020

• #67

It's easy enough to google the answer as to why they decided to make the game turn based. It's basically because D&D is turn based and they thought the implementation of the rules that way made the most sense. No laziness involved, they simply thought it would work best with the base game assumptions.

 

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Demetrios1453

Hero

• Oct 10, 2020

• #68

Iry said:

Breaking news. Larian discovers players create very bland characters. Stay tuned for next update where we discover most players pick human fighter.

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It's a human cleric (of Selune with Life domain) actually. You can see the race and class in the same picture Larian released.

 

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UngeheuerLich

Legend

• Oct 10, 2020

• #69

The accusation of laziness is mostly just something people throw out because they don't want to aknowledge that some people have different tastes or priorities.

I am very sure that most companies care about what they think their audience will like best and thus make them the most profit. Sometimes they have to make hard decisions because of their available time and budget. But that does not equal laziness.

 

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BRayne

Adventurer

• Oct 10, 2020

• #70

Demetrios1453 said:

It's a human cleric (of Selune with Life domain) actually. You can see the race and class in the same picture Larian released.

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I think the post they did was just appearance. Life Domain Cleric of Selune is just the class that pops up when you enter the character creator