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D&D 5E Booming Blade and Green-Flame Blade Nerfed in TCoE


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It's worth noting that reach weapons can be used within 5' at no penalty in 5e, so the whip and such is still technically compatible with the cantrips, even if it loses most of it's reason for being used.
 


Yeah, the 5' restriction is unnecessary. I think it is designed to prevent making the fire shoot out 10' past the original target with other features, rather than preventing the weapon from dealing the additional damage at its normal range and then having the fire jump to an adjacent target. You can probably literally just remove the 5' parts from both the target line and text and it will work as actually intended (that's how I'd run it). It's both stronger than the original wording that way (in that you don't need extra stuff to use it at reach range) and weaker in that you can't use that extra stuff to extend the flame range past the attack. I suppose it also doesn't work with War Caster, and I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that.
 

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It makes sense: That lizard guy ate a bunch of spicy nachoes with extra chili at the Tavern before the party went out to that dungeon and his breath is EXTRA jalapeño!
It may not be his breath that is hot....the old 7/11 Nacho trot was usually headed to the loo. That makes the fire splash damage rather gross.
 

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Well, here's a possible combination. The Bladesinger's Extra Attack allows for you to replace an attack from the Attack action with a cantrip, and Haste gives you an extra Attack action. The transitive property then suggests that you can combine those features to use the Hasted action to cast BB/GFB. What do you all think?

(I know this is slightly off topic, but just wanted to see what the people in this thread thought about this.)
 

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Well, here's a possible combination. The Bladesinger's Extra Attack allows for you to replace an attack from the Attack action with a cantrip, and Haste gives you an extra Attack action. The transitive property then suggests that you can combine those features to use the Hasted action to cast BB/GFB. What do you all think?

(I know this is slightly off topic, but just wanted to see what the people in this thread thought about this.)
Unless I'm missing something, I believe that would be the intended function of haste.
 


tetrasodium

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Haste typically doesn't let you cast spells.
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Back in 3.5when there was a strong case of linear fighter quadratic wizard that limitation made sense, but in 5e casters are so tightly tuned it's a lot closer to 4e when it just gave an extra standard action. Intentional or not it makes sense for it to work with haste & fits it by RAW.
 

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