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prabe

Tension, apprension, and dissension have begun
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(laughs in Pacific Northwest)
My wife went to grad school the second time in Montana, and when I'd visit her there, we would drive through Idaho to Washington to pick up beers.

I am familiar with ... well, what was there 12-15 years ago, to be honest. 😆
 

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Snarf Zagyg

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How dare you give him a beer with flavor?

Oh, you want flavor?

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CleverNickName

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Most of the beers up here are IPAs, which have a very strong hop flavor and aroma. People love or hate the flavor with little in between, and folks describe the flavor as "gin-like," "pine tar," "bug spray," or even "drain cleaner." But nobody can say they're "flavorless."

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They're sort of like warlocks in that respect.
 
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prabe

Tension, apprension, and dissension have begun
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Most of the beers up here are IPAs, which have a very strong hop flavor and aroma. People love them or hate the flavor, and folks describe the flavor as "bug spray" or "drain cleaner," but nobody can say they're "flavorless."

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American hops, though these days they've at least somewhat moved past the classics C hops--Centennial, Cascade, and Chinook. Probably stuff like Mosaic and Citra and stuff so new to market it just has a alphanumeric designation.

I am a beer nerd of long standing please stop me now.
 

Snarf Zagyg

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Most of the beers up here are IPAs, which have a very strong hop flavor and aroma. People love them or hate the flavor, and folks describe the flavor as "bug spray" or "drain cleaner," but nobody can say they're "flavorless."

So, on a somewhat serious note ... the problem with IPAs in my opinion is that most of them aren't very good. There has been an arms race with a lot of IPA makers and instead of asking, "How can I make a better beer," they instead ask, "How can we HOP THE S*** OUT OF THIS AND MAKE IT INSANELY BITTER???"

It's like if people who made spirits decided that the only "real" style for spirits was an Italian Amaro, and instead of making the many delicious ones we have, all they did was try and make Fernet-Branca, but ever more bitter.

I love (really love) bitter flavors, but I am unimpressed with the vast majority of IPAs.
 

Cadence

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So, on a somewhat serious note ... the problem with IPAs in my opinion is that most of them aren't very good. There has been an arms race with a lot of IPA makers and instead of asking, "How can I make a better beer," they instead ask, "How can we HOP THE S*** OUT OF THIS AND MAKE IT INSANELY BITTER???"

I was thinking the problem with IPAs is that they aren't Stouts, Porters, Dunkels, or Weizens... but that could explain it.
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
There are only two IPAs in the Pacific Northwest that I recommend:
Gigantic IPA from Gigantic Brewing, and
Pallet Jack IPA from Barley Brown's Beer.

Yes, they're extremely hoppy and crisp--the first is more floral and juicy, the latter is more piney, but they are at least balanced with an appropriate amount of malt. All others taste nearly identical to me.
 

prabe

Tension, apprension, and dissension have begun
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So, on a somewhat serious note ... the problem with IPAs in my opinion is that most of them aren't very good. There has been an arms race with a lot of IPA makers and instead of asking, "How can I make a better beer," they instead ask, "How can we HOP THE S*** OUT OF THIS AND MAKE IT INSANELY BITTER???"

It's like if people who made spirits decided that the only "real" style for spirits was an Italian Amaro, and instead of making the many delicious ones we have, all they did was try and make Fernet-Branca, but ever more bitter.

I love (really love) bitter flavors, but I am unimpressed with the vast majority of IPAs.
You've probably gotten this recommendation before, but the entire NEIPA (New England IPA) thing is all about getting the fruity floral citrussy hops flavors into the beer without making them register as bitter. Lots of late- and dry-hopping, I think. Just a suggestion for something to try.
 



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