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The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

overgeeked

B/X Known World
“All styles and preferences welcome.”

“If you don’t like it as much as we do, in exactly the same ways the we do, you will be attacked.”

Seriously, pick one.
 

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Scribe

Legend
“All styles and preferences welcome.”

“If you don’t like it as much as we do, in exactly the same ways the we do, you will be attacked.”

Seriously, pick one.

I mean, I dont know the specific context, but we all know that the first line is not true. Hasnt been for years (at least) around here.
 




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eyeheartawk

#1 Enworld Jerk™
Listen, I know that you've all been just using green peppers on your pizza for decades. And, technically, nothing stops you from just continuing to use the green peppers you get from your garden, as you have been for decades, for free. But really, you should use these new green peppers that we provide which are exactly the same but worse in every way. Also, I now need to look into your financials.
 

Ryujin

Legend
Listen, I know that you've all been just using green peppers on your pizza for decades. And, technically, nothing stops you from just continuing to use the green peppers you get from your garden, as you have been for decades, for free. But really, you should use these new green peppers that we provide which are exactly the same but worse in every way. Also, I now need to look into your financials.
"And we may also be basing a crytocurrency on your peppers"?
 

Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
While I'm up on my soapbox about it: I don't understand the whole "Old School Renaissance" movement in D&D. Why OSR when you can just OS?
I would say that question is based on a misconception. The Old School Renaissance was not originally centered on retroclones, nor, I would argue, is it really even now. It was about re-examining, re-engaging with, and proud apologia for the original TSR D&D editions. OSRIC was, IIRC, the first retroclone, and was specifically designed to facilitate folks publishing new modules for and supplements to 1E AD&D (Old School Reference and Index Compilation). It was not intended to replace AD&D, but rather to explain it a bit more clearly and be a publishing tool to facilitate those modules/adventures and supplements.

As overgeeked mentioned, retroclones got popular in part because for several years WotC stopped selling PDFs or PODs of the original rules, so retroclones filled in a gap in the market there.

Of course, retroclones also represent a great creative outlet- MOST of them incorporate some house rules, refinements, clean-up of or at least clarification of the older rules. So after OSRIC and BFRPG and Labyrinth Lord and so forth paved the way and established clearly that WotC wasn't going to freak out and get litigious about clones, more and more people got into cloning. And hopefully that helps answer your question about why people keep making clones.

Nowadays I would say that clones have disproportionately high visibility online compared to their real importance, just because the publishers promote them. But if you spend time in OSR forums and Reddit and so forth, while the clones themselves do get a fair amount of discussion, a ton of it is still about the original rules, and about modules and dungeons produced for OSR use, which are mostly actually FOR the original editions. Just labeling them with the current most popular clone (right now it's OSE, of course, which is really a very faithful re-presentation of B/X) avoids trademark issues, and helps cross-market.

I hated making daiquiris. Or any sticky, frozen fruit drink...loud, time-consuming, requires lots of cleanup, and the person ordering them usually doesn't understand that bartenders basically work for tips.
For a second I was confused, then remembered how ubiquitous frozen daiquiris are. Just within the last year I got to be a big fan of a classic daiquiri. Very elegant and simple.
 
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