FrogReaver
The most respectful and polite poster ever
Ummm, Clerics can take Heavy Armor at level 1. I think you are thinking of one of the playtest documents.
D&D (2024) Chance for a warlord?
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Frozen_Heart
Hero
Honestly, I don't care if it's the 'warlord' or a completely different martial support class.
They probably aren't going to make it regardless... but even if they did make it, the odds are such that you most likely are not going to get what you specifically want. I mean that's the case with every single thing WotC makes-- they cannot and will not please every single person. No matter what they do, there will always be at least one person here on EN World that hates it so much that they'd rather prefer it never having been made than to see it made in the format they just couldn't deal with.
I just want a martial support class. It's the largest mechanical gap left in 5e, and one I feel needs filling above anything else.
I think the odds are high, actually. They are going to have to release something in the next 5 or so years before the next version of the game.
I'm really curious what we're going to get in 2026 and 27, as the new leaders really take charge. I'm hoping for creativity and not nostalgia.
I'm really curious what we're going to get in 2026 and 27, as the new leaders really take charge. I'm hoping for creativity and not nostalgia.
SteveC
Doing the best imitation of myself
Unfortunately I don't think this will ever happen. I loved the 4E Warlord and played one all the way to an Epic campaign. The issue to me is that the Warlord was a leader and so could be a replacement for a cleric, and still be martial. That's a no-go.
Further, the Warlord had powers in the same manner as a spellcaster, which is something they again don't want to do. For an official Warlord? Don't think it will happen.
Further, the Warlord had powers in the same manner as a spellcaster, which is something they again don't want to do. For an official Warlord? Don't think it will happen.
EzekielRaiden
Follower of the Way
Are we talking about the same edition? 5e is literally all about the latter over the former.
We have all new people in charge. I can hope for change.
Also, there are examples of things that aren't nostalgia, but I'm not going to have that argument over and over here.
Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
Well, mostly new....James Wyatt is currently the senior developer on hand, and he was involved in 4E and both 2014 and 2024 rules.l design.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Yep. Magical Captain subclasses could be things like teleporting defender/controller type with support teleports as well, and an elementalist that adds elemental effects to ally actions with a 10+ ft emanation.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Yeah totally all that nostalgia in the…Hit Point Dice, Weapon Masteries, D20 Tests, Emanations, Sleep being a saving throw vs unconscious, Orcs, Goliaths, and Aasimar, as PHB species, races being called Species, Wizards having multiple healing spells, not to mention all the subclasses that were invented for 5e (2014 or 2024), the PHB lacking two previous PHB species, the addition of Bastions, changing the place feats hold in the game (both in 2014 and then again in 2024), Psionics working differently from any previous edition, getting rid of residual artifacts of past editions like Druidic armor restrictions and alignment rules, and many many other examples.
All totally in service to nostalgia.
Or maybe you just don’t like it, which is an entirely different thing.
UngeheuerLich
Legend
I think I can build a cleric replacement as a battle master already...
Or as a warrior of mercy monk.
Every 4e class had powers in the same manner as a spellcaster... So how is that a no-go?
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