D&D General A paladin just joined the group. I'm a necromancer.

[Helldritch]

A roll can be used to describe the quality or passion of the argument. A player might roleplay differently to a compelling argument than a poor one.

Not against an other player. No way! Not at any table worth its salt.

 

[Weiley31]

Not against an other player. No way! Not at any table worth its salt.

My one Warlock character is a jerk "Magnificent Bastard" who pretty much did a deception roll against the party as he is looking for some stooges while trying to complete his goal.

No really he's that BIG of a douche.

 

[Helldritch]

Deception to lie to your team mates (hiding your motives) is acceptable. But you will never force a player to act on a persuasion roll. Never. Your deception roll might work. But it will be up to the player to act as he sees fit.

I could force him to ignore what your roll was about (hiding your motive) but the action itself would and will be decided by the player. Not the result of your roll.

 

[Iry]

Not against an other player. No way! Not at any table worth its salt.

It's the same as rolling performance to put on a show. The other player has the freedom to react how they want, but it informs the scene about how good the performance in general was.

 

[Helldritch]

That I agree. But it will never force a player to act out of his character no matter how good the roll was. NPCs on the other hand are fair game.

 

[Lanefan]

Do androids dream of electronic sheep?

If this isn't already a line in a song somewhere, it should be!

 

[Helldritch]

If this isn't already a line in a song somewhere, it should be!

Isaac Asimov. A novel.
Edit: Actualy it was a novel by Phillip K Dicks. Isaac's novel was Robot dreams. But a similar phrase was made in the novel of Aasimov if I remember correctly.

 

[Iry]

Isaac Asimov. A novel.

You lose library privileges, young man!

 

[Helldritch]

Yeah... It was gnawing at me. The: "Do android dream of Electric sheep" became the Blade Runner movie. I bow my head in shame for my mistake...

But Robot dreams is a really good novel by Aasimov. You should read it!!!

 

[Iry]

All is forgiven.