AD&D second edition: Why be hatin'?
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Lodow MoBo
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As far as i'm concerned 2nd edition is a pale shadow to third.
Every wizard(or insert other class) was the same as every wizard(or insert other class).
Poor flexibility in multiclassing with strange penalties/limitations
Crap for skills
Poor mechanics thaco/ac/why does my monk not get a dex bonus(1sted?)
Fast and loose combat system ( I would not say this is a plus or a minus, but I prefer 3 - 3.5)
Fast and loose situational resolution. Why can't my guy do X? comes up much less in our 3.5 games.
Every wizard(or insert other class) was the same as every wizard(or insert other class).
Poor flexibility in multiclassing with strange penalties/limitations
Crap for skills
Poor mechanics thaco/ac/why does my monk not get a dex bonus(1sted?)
Fast and loose combat system ( I would not say this is a plus or a minus, but I prefer 3 - 3.5)
Fast and loose situational resolution. Why can't my guy do X? comes up much less in our 3.5 games.
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Evilhalfling
Adventurer
I have a lingering fondness for 2nd - It was where I learned to run games.
I used lots of terribly unbalanced rules while wearing a blinder about how awful they were. I played Darksun, Spelljammer, and homebrewed
If you are trying to take spelljammer seriously then you are playing it wrong -
We had an all halfling crew - on a ship that looked like a swan. I remember using funny acents all the time. As well as an obligitory GSH as a henchman
I fixed darksun balance problems by gleefully killing off the more terrible PC's
19 str thri kreen Druid, Im not sure he ever used spells, just massacred stuff with his claws. 1 death per 2-3 sessions was normal.
The skills were just terrible - useless and nearly impossible to fail
you could never improve as a second slot devoted to a skill gave you +5%
to your base of 70% or better
I used lots of terribly unbalanced rules while wearing a blinder about how awful they were. I played Darksun, Spelljammer, and homebrewed
If you are trying to take spelljammer seriously then you are playing it wrong -
We had an all halfling crew - on a ship that looked like a swan. I remember using funny acents all the time. As well as an obligitory GSH as a henchman
I fixed darksun balance problems by gleefully killing off the more terrible PC's
19 str thri kreen Druid, Im not sure he ever used spells, just massacred stuff with his claws. 1 death per 2-3 sessions was normal.
The skills were just terrible - useless and nearly impossible to fail
you could never improve as a second slot devoted to a skill gave you +5%
to your base of 70% or better
Duo Maxwell
Explorer
MerricB said:But Spelljammer gave us the Giant Space Hamster! How can you not love it?
Cheers!
So THAT'S where Minsc (Baldur's Gate I & II) got Boo!
Exactly. The GSH entry in the Spelljammer monster book came with a long list of variant Giant Space Hamsters. Some just had cosmetic changes, some were big rule variations (lernean fire-breathing doppleganger giant space hamster...), and one were the miniature giant space hamster, conveniently about the size of a regular hamster.Duo Maxwell said:
Incenjucar
Legend
Something you learn when associating with any sort of fandom: Fans define themselves at least as much by what they hate as by what they love.
Hence all that idiotic Star Trek vs. Star Wars vs. Babylon 5 stuff.
Just enjoy the damned stuff you like already.
Hence all that idiotic Star Trek vs. Star Wars vs. Babylon 5 stuff.
Just enjoy the damned stuff you like already.
Angel Tarragon
Dawn Dragon
I don't hate 2nd Edition. I have fond memories of my first DMing experience and loved the game. When Alternity came out I was in love again. Third Edition and the D20 system has its base in Alternity. It is wonderful simple mechanic and admittedly I like it better than 2nd Edition, but not to the point where I hate it.
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