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Emad Mostaque, CEO of Stability AI, said on twitter that the dataset for SD3 was fully respecting opt-out "unlike anyone else", after mentionning their training method on arstechnica. Since the other major players in the field (Dall-E and MJ) don't communicate on this, maybe he's privy to insider info, maybe he's just commenting on their lack of transparency. If confirmed, it's good to have another major player (along with Adobe) who has an EU-compliant generative system.
 
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Ryujin

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Emad Mostaque, CEO of Stability AI, said on twitter that the dataset for SD3 was fully respecting opt-out "unlike anyone else", after mentionning their training method on arstechnica. Since the other major players in the field (Dall-E and MJ) don't communicate on this, maybe he's privy to insider info, maybe he's just commenting on their lack of transparency. If confirmed, it's good to have another major player (along with Adobe) who has an EU-compliant generative system.
It should be an opt-in model, not opt-out. Not knowing that you have to opt-out of something means that you don't do it. On the other hand the robots.txt of my server is...

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

..., which is a deny all, but I'm constantly having crawls on my site. That's an unambiguous, global opt-out, but it doesn't stop those who don't care about being ethical.
 

It should be an opt-in model, not opt-out. Not knowing that you have to opt-out of something means that you don't do it.
On the other hand, there is no reason to think that copyright extend the monopoly of the author to training AI models. So someone unaware wouldn't assume it is protected by non-existent laws, or laws he doesn't know. Copyright was a protection against verbatim reproduction of (parts) of intellectual property, without mention of AI training, mostly because AI training didn't exist. The public benefit of having it go all the way in favour of monopoly (forbidding the use of copyrighted material) or the other extreme of allowing it without restriction were deemed inferior to the public benefit derived from the happy middle ground of allowing it without restriction for academic or cultural purpose and with opt-out for commercial use.
 
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Ryujin

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On the other hand, there is no reason to think that copyright extend the monopoly of the author to training AI models. So someone unaware wouldn't assume it is protected by non-existent laws, or laws he doesn't know. Copyright was a protection against verbatim reproduction of (parts) of intellectual property, without mention of AI training, mostly because AI training didn't exist. The public benefit of having it go all the way in favour of monopoly (forbidding the use of copyrighted material) or the other extreme of allowing it without restriction were deemed inferior to the public benefit derived from the happy middle ground of allowing it without restriction for academic or cultural purpose and with opt-out for commercial use.
Well that's the discussion here (and elsewhere), isn't it? AI can and does reproduce works that have been read into it. Is it a case of "infinite monkeys", or is it because the works exist in their complete form in the generative AI? Does copyright apply or doesn't it? If it reproduces the works that were used to train it then they could be assumed to exist within it. To me, that breaches copyright. Let's see where the law comes down on it and the "public benefit" is debatable. Damage to the individual has to be weighed against it, even if benefit exists.
 

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