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trappedslider

Explorer
so,DC Universe just launched. DC Universe is basically a streaming service that in the end will carry all things DC that aren't currently under contract elsewhere, it currently has all of the DCAU, the DC animated movies, Batman movies and all of the Christopher Reeves superman movies among other goodies, like digital versions of the comics. All that for USD 7.99 not sure about international streaming.

Soon Disney is going to be launching their own streaming service (the last marvel movie to hit netflix will be Ant-man and Wasp I believe and they are currently in talks with Turner to get back the tv rights for Star Wars).

With this knowledge my wallet has cried out in pain and suffering lol.

I currently am subscribed to Amazon prime (student payment thank god) and Netflix's cheapest plan. I have no interest in CBS' All Acess and the same with Hulu. And once my time with Amazon prime is over, I won't be renewing it,since there's only one show I like and I can watch that in other ways.

So, which services are you subbed to and which do you plan to pick up if any?
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Most of those (Hulu, CBS, etc.) aren't available here. It all ends up in Netflix over here.

We have SkyQ though, and the BBC iPlayer is free.
 
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ccs

39th lv DM
Just netflix & prime.
I don't really consider myself subscribed to prime as a video service though. I had, & still have, it because of the shipping (wich even with the price increase has paid for itself +). The streaming content is just a bonus feature for me.

The only reason I'd consider the DC service would be if Arrow, Flash etc were all relocated there vs being able to watch the seasons either on Netflix or the CW site.

Same with Disney.
If netflix lost Daredevil etc....
The SW/Marvel movies moving wouldn't sway me though. At least not until dvd/BR isn't a thing anymore. I see them in the theatre & if I really like it a few months later I add it to the shelf....
 

Blue

Orcus on a bad hair day
I've got Netflix and Prime, but Prime was gotten for (and pays for itself with) free shipping - if it was just for the video I wouldn't have it.

The fragmentation of the streaming services is based on the idea that people are willing to spend (near-) Netflix level monthly subscriptions on "one more service". To the people pitching them it's a long term income stream.

The problem is that as there gets to be more and more, each with a limite amount that viewers want, that's not going to be the most widespread case. Amazon's Anime Strike! already hit into that and folded. Netflix, with the wide catalog of different things on it that it could fit all of your needs, can be worth Netflix prices. Something like CBS All Access, where their catalog is shows you either already watched, or didn't bother to watch when they are free, doesn't have that appeal. Especially when popular shows of their may not be available due to other licensing deals. (I think they said their are a total of 12 episodes of Big Bang Theory available out of 11 seasons of shows. Just as an example of how shows you'd expect may not be there.)

So if the services (possibly including Netflix as they lose content) want the volume of subscribers, they will need to charge less. Find the equilibrium where they maximize profits - if they don't have to pay per-watch or per-viewer licensing fees, more viewers will be more profitable overall then fewer viewers with a higher cost.

So we'll see where this ends up. I think that the plethora of new streaming are all trying to jump on the bandwagon and in two years the environment will be very different, with some failing and many with competitive pricing as an "add on" service vs. the "everything" service that Netflix and the other big ones command currently.
 

Ralif Redhammer

Adventurer
Just Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the free version of Hulu at our place. There’s also Tubi, another free one, that I’ve been playing around with a little. Once a year, when the new season of Outlander comes out, my wife pays for the Starz sub-subscription for Hulu and binges that, then unsubscribes.

I keep idly considering ZOE’s Fantasy Network. It’s only $5 a month, but nickels and dimes add up.
 

trappedslider

Explorer
I don't order enough for the shipping to be a factor for me with Prime, the only reason why I am subed is because it only cost me about 7 dollars and I like The Man In the High Castle, also nickelodeon just launched Nicksplat which has all of their stuff from the 90s with VRM, but they give a choice with VRM package it's 10$ vs without for 6$.
 

Mallus

Hero
Currently, we've got Netflix & Prime.

Before Prime we had Hulu, until they dropped the Criterion Collection. At some point we'll probably try Filmstruck for a while -- it's where the Criterion Collection wound up.

When Discovery's back, I'll grimace, bear it, and then re-sub to CBS All Access for the length of its 2nd season run.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Currently I have Netflix and Hulu. Due to a misclick, my wife ended up with Amazon Prime for a year - we are using it to rewatch B5, but are unlikely to re-up on that.
 

Jester David

Adventurer
I have Prime Account and Netflix. Tempted by Disney, as I’m a parent. That’s a no brainer service if it even has a third of their back catalogue.
DC has no appeal to me. Doesn’t sound like there’s remotely enough. And Titans looks godawful.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
I have Prime, including the Fire TV dongle and it is the main source of TV. For movies, it is rare that I can't rent what I want from prime. For serials, I've bought seasons from Prime, but I generally find it a better deal to temporarily subscribe to whatever service includes it in their subscription, especially if I want the newest episodes or if it offers other content I can consume during the month's subscription.

I get a limited Twitch account through Amazon Prime but I only use it for the PAX Acquisitions Incorporated events a few times a year.

I have YouTube Premium mostly because it gives me the ability to listen to videos in the background, it gets rid of advertisements, allows me to download videos for long flights or car trips. But I'm probably going to cancel it. It just isn't worth 11/month, especially since I don't use YouTube Music (and I have an Apple Music subscription). Once I have to start dealing with ads on YouTube again, I'll probably just break the habit of checking my favorite subscriptions.

I subscribe to HBO on and off throughout the year depending what series has its new season available.

I subscribe to Netflix only to access Stranger Things and then cancel. When the new season comes out I'll likely subscribe for a month to watch it.

When I was overseas I bought almost all my content from iTunes as it was the only way to get a lot of content (legally) where I was. I still subscribe to Apple Music which is worth it because I like to check out new music and I also use it for background music during my games.

If streaming services try to force me into an annual contract, I'll just stop using them. I'll wait a year or two and get the shows I really want on Prime. If they no longer make the content available on Prime/Netflix/Hulu, I can easily live without any of it. Also, I might be moving to Switzerland, which I expect to greatly limit my access to content unless the regional licensing nonsense has gotten better in the last 6 years.

I've got a lot of reading to catch up on, so I might be a good thing to lose access to most of my video content.
 

trappedslider

Explorer
Most of those (Hulu, CBS, etc.) aren't available here. It all ends up in Netflix over here.

We have SkyQ though, and the BBC iPlayer is free.
So even stuff like Hulu The Handmaid's tale and Prime's originals show up on netflix after a while over there?
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
So even stuff like Hulu The Handmaid's tale and Prime's originals show up on netflix after a while over there?
Oh, Amazon Prime is worldwide.

As for Hulu, I have no way of knowing what might originally have been on a Hulu, never having seen one (or a CBS, or any of the local services you have over there), but I’ve seen Handmaid’s Tale available (though I haven’t watched it), and Star Trek Discovery is on Netflix the next day. Other stuff like Game of Thrones etc. shows up on a Sky channel, usually the day after you get it I think. I don’t usually know the original source of the shows.

Generally speaking most stuff shows up on Netflix or a Sky channel. Often the next day, though some stuff (I’m looking at you, The Expanse season 2!) still hasn’t shown up for some reason.
 

Jhaelen

Villager
Generally speaking most stuff shows up on Netflix or a Sky channel. Often the next day, though some stuff (I’m looking at you, The Expanse season 2!) still hasn’t shown up for some reason.
Here in Germany, The Expanse Season 2 is already available on Netflix.

I finally broke down and started to sub Netflix last weekend. My biggest problem is lacking time, so it's difficult for me to turn a subscription into a worthwhile investment. I also consider the offerings available in Germany's free TV to be quite good. They may be about 2 years behind, but if you have the patience, they'll eventually broadcast most of the successful shows. Also, specifically on Arte, you'll get to see sleeper hits from all across Europe that aren't available on any of the streaming services.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
I keep idly considering ZOE’s Fantasy Network. It’s only $5 a month, but nickels and dimes add up.
So I subscribed to The Fantasy Network on a whim last night after an evening training. I hadn't heard of it before your post but I've backed ZOE Kickstarter campaigns and love all their free stuff on YouTube.

My first impression is that that there just isn't enough content available to make an ongoing subscription worth it. I suspect that I will watch everything I want in a month, maybe two, then cancel. That is cheaper than renting JourneyQuest on Prime, so it is worth it (except at this point I should just buy JQ, I've rewatched it so many times).

I suspect that they know this though, and at this point are happy to get the few months of subscriptions. What is also cool is that if you are a ZOE Patreon supporter, you get access to TFN as part of your Patreon support (as certain levels).

Oh, I know a lot of ZOE stuff is on YouTube, but it really is nice to see the entire JourneyQuest or Gamers as a movie than a cut up series of YouTube clips.

But most of the non-ZOE series on TFN are short clips and not complete yet, which is kinda annoying. Also, be warned, the production values on most of the stuff here are pretty low. But it can scratch your fantasy camp itch. There are some nice surprises, like the ZOE short film "Iron", but that not really Fantasy, more like historical fiction.
 

Ralif Redhammer

Adventurer
Bummer, but thanks for the honest review. I do hope that it does grow over time. I imagine they'll need to partner with even more indie filmmakers.

My first impression is that that there just isn't enough content available to make an ongoing subscription worth it. I suspect that I will watch everything I want in a month, maybe two, then cancel. That is cheaper than renting JourneyQuest on Prime, so it is worth it (except at this point I should just buy JQ, I've rewatched it so many times).
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
Bummer, but thanks for the honest review. I do hope that it does grow over time. I imagine they'll need to partner with even more indie filmmakers.
I hope that it can be a more reliable source of income for content creators than YouTube. YouTube is great when you have massive followings but it is hard to justify continued effort when you have smaller fan bases. Yet, many fans or fans of the genre may be willing to spend a few bucks to continue indie series.
 

MarkB

Hero
Currently I have Netflix, and Now TV, Sky TV's streaming service. I cancelled my satellite TV service with Sky over a year ago, and now only subscribe to Now TV for a few months at a time when they're airing a few shows I enjoy.

I've tried Amazon Prime a couple of times on free / cheap offers, but never found a good reason to stick with it. They have an okay selection of shows, but I didn't warm to any of their homegrown product, and had trouble finding anything really entertaining in their back-catalog.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
So I subscribed to The Fantasy Network on a whim last night after an evening training. I hadn't heard of it before your post but I've backed ZOE Kickstarter campaigns and love all their free stuff on YouTube.

My first impression is that that there just isn't enough content available to make an ongoing subscription worth it. I suspect that I will watch everything I want in a month, maybe two, then cancel. That is cheaper than renting JourneyQuest on Prime, so it is worth it (except at this point I should just buy JQ, I've rewatched it so many times).

I suspect that they know this though, and at this point are happy to get the few months of subscriptions. What is also cool is that if you are a ZOE Patreon supporter, you get access to TFN as part of your Patreon support (as certain levels).

Oh, I know a lot of ZOE stuff is on YouTube, but it really is nice to see the entire JourneyQuest or Gamers as a movie than a cut up series of YouTube clips.

But most of the non-ZOE series on TFN are short clips and not complete yet, which is kinda annoying. Also, be warned, the production values on most of the stuff here are pretty low. But it can scratch your fantasy camp itch. There are some nice surprises, like the ZOE short film "Iron", but that not really Fantasy, more like historical fiction.
Kinda sounds like the early days of what is now SyFy.
 

Henry

Autoexreginated
I maintain:
Amazon Prime
Hulu
Netflix
BritBox
Acorn

...and damned if I’m going to pick up any other services. DC universe, CBS, Disney, Alpha, and any other streaming service, as far as I am concerned, can go :):):):) themselves until these companies can figure out how to play well with others and work some kind of deals again with the big boys in the space, instead of trying to Walmart or Amazon their way in to steal the pie. I’m not about to sign up for so many $5 and $10 services that I’m paying a second Cable bill. Thanks to Prime, I kind of already am :) (though as much as I’ve saved on Prime between free shipping and my twitch viewing, it’s been worth it.)
 

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