D&D 5E Am I no longer WoTC's target audience?

[Lanefan]

Um...

If you are looking at what is most effective (for whatever definition of "effective" you are using) then you are explicitly not using "the original did it this way" as your argument. You are using "this is more effective" as your argument.

And thus, my point still stands. Being in the original does not, in and of itself, carry weight.

I'm just trying to push back against the "newest is best" mentality that I run into all too often here and elsewhere.

 

[Lanefan]

Duergar, svirfneblin and drow are all player-facing options in Unearthed Arcana, and Gygax also talked about playing them as PCs in a Dragon article in issue 95, which prefigured the UA revisions to demihuman level limits.

Merely proof that even Gygax was capable of making mistakes.

 

[Arilyn]

Historically, we know almost nothing about the druids. D&D druids, as well as other fantasy games, have created a tradition based on the Victorian ideas of druids mixed in with modern ecological concerns for the wilderness. As such, elves are a great choice to embrace druidic practices.

As a side note, if we could somehow fully comprehend what the druids practiced, as modern people, we'd robably still want to stick with our made up ones.

 

[hawkeyefan]

We'll flat-out have to agree to disagree on that one.

In a space-based game or setting (Traveller, Star Wars, etc.) humanocentrism doesn't make much sense. In a fantasy-earthlike game or setting (D&D and many others) it certainly does.

How do you figure that?

Genuinely asking. I don’t know if I agree...I think I might not....but I’m curious on your reasoning for that conclusion.

 

[Zardnaar]

How do you figure that?

Genuinely asking. I don’t know if I agree...I think I might not....but I’m curious on your reasoning for that conclusion.

Humans are easier to relate to and most of the tropes are based off our legends and mythology.

 

[Fenris-77]

As a side note, if we could somehow fully comprehend what the druids practiced, as modern people, we'd robably still want to stick with our made up ones.

Yeah, although if D&D Druids had a heaping helping of human sacrifice ladled over the top I might actually play one some time. I'd even settle for demihuman sacrifice, I'm not picky. We could fill a wicker man with Gnome Paladins and light a fire so big the gods will notice us again.

 

[Lanefan]

How do you figure that?

Genuinely asking. I don’t know if I agree...I think I might not....but I’m curious on your reasoning for that conclusion.

@Zardnaar answered this much better and more succinctly than I was about to, so yeah - what he said.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yeah, although if D&D Druids had a heaping helping of human sacrifice ladled over the top I might actually play one some time. I'd even settle for demihuman sacrifice, I'm not picky. We could fill a wicker man with Gnome Paladins and light a fire so big the gods will notice us again.

Can I use Kender for fuel instead.

They're my only truly hated race in D&D.

 

[Anoth]

Humans are easier to relate to and most of the tropes are based off our legends and mythology.

which is what I kept saying about elves and Druids. They didn’t like each other in our own legends and mythology. it’s like sparkly vampires.

 

[Anoth]

Can I use Kender for fuel instead.

They're my only truly hated races in D&D.

I love them in literature. Just not as PC’s in games.