Angel Finale


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Henry said:
-I think Angel DID sign away his right to the prophecy.
It would certainly fit his idea that they sacrifice all for this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Of course, it could also depend on how literal the prophecy is; it looks like he signs it 'Angel', which of course is not his actual real name. But with that scrawl, I can't tell. :) He might have put down 'Liam' for all I can tell.
 

well, finally saw it. Very good episode, it was what I expected and I figured Wes would die. He was a tragic hero. It would have been nice if Angel tried to contacvt some slayers to help, there must be thousands of them out there.
 

Crothian said:
It would have been nice if Angel tried to contacvt some slayers to help, there must be thousands of them out there.


That is the biggest flaw in the Buffy Finale. All those slayers would have changed the world and balance of power dramatically. Even if the girls were unaware of their potential or role, they would have been hunted by both the forces of light and darkness. One for aid, the other for death. IMO, it was a stupid concept.


Anyway, this was a pretty darned good episode and a fitting end. I do hope this is the end of the Buffyverse. I don't ever want to see spike again and I feel the same way about willow and Xander. Joss had a bad habit of keeping characters around too long and forced relationships that did not fit. Harmony is the most recent example. Why would Angel ever hire her or allow her to keep her job???? But, none the less, I am glad I tuned in for the finally. Too bad Cordy couldn't be there.
 

LightPhoenix said:
Also, as to who survived? Lorne. Actually, with his line of "you'll never see me again, so don't look," I'm wondering if Lorne killed Lindsey, wandered off, and then committed suicide. Probably not, but you could easily make a case for it.

Actually, I see him becoming an alcholic and addict... perhaps hanging out with the wrong crowd of celebrities. The events of this season just broke him. He started drinking after they lost Fred and I see him going in more of a downward spiral with all the events that happened after.

I enjoyed the ending, but was a bit disapointed. Most likely, it's just because it's the end, but a few things seemed a bit off to me.
Like, when did Wes started throwing around flaming balls of magical force. He was the guy to go to for things magical, but usually he was reading his spells from a book.
That's the one that stands out at least. Otherwise, it had great action, great dialog, and things that I just didn't see coming.
 

wolff96 said:
Personally, I'd like to see a spin-off with Faith, the Principle, and Willow. They travel around and do what they can. In the second season, something happens to the Principle. After that, Willow and Faith continue, supporting each other through the tough times. Together, eventually as a couple, fighting the good fight.

Now all we need is to free up Elisha Dushku... Oh, wait, no problem. If there is *any* justice in the world, True Calling should be dead in a season or so. ;)

Drop the Principle, whatever his name was, and I would like to see that. I would add Kennedy and a new character, or a seldom used one, to the group.
 

Cthulhudrew said:
I think he's still got some wiggle room, after all, Illyria's statement was "You're fading. You'll last ten minutes." She didn't explicitly say he'd die in ten minutes, and she's not one to pull punches or make understatements (she told Wesley his wound was mortal). The implication is certainly (along with his injuries) that he had only ten minutes to live, but it could also be taken as "you're going to be passed out from exhaustion and pain in ten minutes, and you'll be no good in a fight at that point". I figure Gun will show up again.


Personally, I took it to mean (And still do) that she thought he'ld last 10 minutes in a fight. He wasn't mortally wounded, but even a survivable wound becomes mortal when you carry it into battle.

As for all the cliff-hangers? That's one of the things I loved about this episode, so much was left up to US, the viewers.
Who decided Lindsey should die, Lorne or AngeL?
What about the Sanshu?
Where did Lorne go afterwards?
Why was there no Slayer involvement?
When is Armageddon if not now?
Will the gang survive the ally-fight?
(There, got Who, what, where, why, and when asked... Took a bit of stretching, but they're all asked.)

So many questions, endless possibilities.. THAT is the perfect way to end a story, by NOT ending it. If you tie up all the little loose ends, leave a neat and tidy package, then when it's over, it's just... over. This way the audience has the chance, as we're doing, to think of what happens next. One of the best qualities any story can have... to continue even after it's over.
 

Tarrasque Wrangler said:
Holy crap, it just dawned on me...

...we're never going to find out who was behind the cyborg ninjas/fake Wesley's dad!
This was how Wes was going to be returned to the show: Ninja/robot/rogue demon hunter! :D
 

Hand of Evil said:
This was how Wes was going to be returned to the show: Ninja/robot/rogue demon hunter! :D

If that had been the plan, I would have lost much faith in Joss...

Well, likely not, because he'd throw some sort of twist into it, I imagine...
 

AuroraGyps said:
Actually, I see him becoming an alcholic and addict... perhaps hanging out with the wrong crowd of celebrities.

You don't mean... Danny Bonaduce!?!?!?! :eek:

Someone just chop Lorne up into spinach NOW. ;)

Seriously, I could see it. Lorne, softie that he is, seems like the type prone to vary manic swings. He'd be super-guy for several episodes, and extremely hurt and dejected the next. Lorne ultimately needs music in his heart, and a crowd to play to. Hopefully, his character found it in the end.
 

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