Any DM's not allowing Spiked Chains?

[EyeontheMountain]

...ah, the tiny mossy twig........now there was a great weapon....

I personally was very fond of the 2E Oritental adventures wehre you could use a strip of cloth as a spear. With the right training of course. Now there was an easy-to-conceal weapon.

 

[Felon]

The spiked chain is not silly. Anyone see kill bill? That crazy japanese wench used a chain to good effect. You are just adding spikes on the ball. Also just as silly would be the Kusari-gama out of Oriental Adventures. This has reach, tripping, 2 different weapon damage type, blunt and slashing. Both weapons are rare and should have unique character backgrounds to allow in my opinion. A Kusari-gama would be more likely in a ninja setting where as where spiked chain fits in would be up to the dm.

And hey, don't forget that vamp dual-wielding spiked chains in Underworld.

Personally, I think it would've gone over better to establish multiple chain weapons in the PHB, rather than one that just having this one weapon that stands out as singularly superlative. Basically, a light one-handed chain, a finessable two-hander, and then a higher-damage non-finessable two-hand heavy-duty chain.

 

[hong]

I don't really have a problem with spiked chains, but I do hate the 3.5 rule that standing up provokes an AoO.

 

[Tetsubo]

The spiked chain is not silly. Anyone see kill bill? That crazy japanese wench used a chain to good effect. You are just adding spikes on the ball. Also just as silly would be the Kusari-gama out of Oriental Adventures. This has reach, tripping, 2 different weapon damage type, blunt and slashing. Both weapons are rare and should have unique character backgrounds to allow in my opinion. A Kusari-gama would be more likely in a ninja setting where as where spiked chain fits in would be up to the dm.

And if the D&D Spiked Chain bore ANY resemblance to the weapon used in Kill Bill I might agree with you. But it doesn't. At all. The KB chain weapon was a Bludgeoning/Piercing weapon that had a chain made of smooth links. The D&D version is pure Piercing weapon with links that have sharp, pointy projections thrusting out of them. One makes sense, the other is silly.

 

[Felon]

And if the D&D Spiked Chain bore ANY resemblance to the weapon used in Kill Bill I might agree with you. But it doesn't. At all. The KB chain weapon was a Bludgeoning/Piercing weapon that had a chain made of smooth links. The D&D version is pure Piercing weapon with links that have sharp, pointy projections thrusting out of them.

LOL. Sorry, despite your insistence to the contrary, the way you actually describe them actually makes them sound very similar.

"They don't even slightly resemble each other. At all. See, one is a chain without spikes, and the other is a chain with spikes...."

 

[Felon]

I don't really have a problem with spiked chains, but I do hate the 3.5 rule that standing up provokes an AoO.

Yep, that's super-lame.

 

[hong]

And if the D&D Spiked Chain bore ANY resemblance to the weapon used in Kill Bill I might agree with you. But it doesn't. At all. The KB chain weapon was a Bludgeoning/Piercing weapon that had a chain made of smooth links. The D&D version is pure Piercing weapon with links that have sharp, pointy projections thrusting out of them. One makes sense, the other is silly.

You don't want to take the weapon pictures in the PHB too seriously. I mean, just look at the rapier....

 

[Deadguy]

You don't want to take the weapon pictures in the PHB too seriously. I mean, just look at the rapier....

No, no hong! We all know that real rapiers are super-cool elven weapons!

 

[Celebrim]

LOL. Sorry, despite your insistence to the contrary, the way you actually describe them actually makes them sound very similar.

"They don't even slightly resemble each other. At all. See, one is a chain without spikes, and the other is a chain with spikes...."

And the one in D&D is a dual wield weapon, and the one in Kill Bill isn't. And the one in D&D threatens both near and far squares, and the one in Kill Bill they have to splice together about 5 short clips during each 'strike' in order to give it the appearance of doing that.

 

[Felon]

And the one in D&D is a dual wield weapon, and the one in Kill Bill isn't. And the one in D&D threatens both near and far squares, and the one in Kill Bill they have to splice together about 5 short clips during each 'strike' in order to give it the appearance of doing that.

Go-Go does hold the chain with both hands--the slack would get underfoot otherwise--and regardless of what cinematographic techniques they used during the scene to facilitate verisimilitude, it's clear that it had reach--definitely kept Kiddo on the defensive. And it's equally clear that many folks who watched the scene bought into it.