D&D General Are you aware that the New Edition (5.5 whatever) is a part of the 50th Anniversary of D&D?

Truly. I was going to say there is a contingent here at EN World that reminds us every day in nearly every thread that 4E is the Khan Noonien Singh edition.
Indeed, and over time their numbers shall swell. Eventually we will wake up and open our phones or tablets or computers or perhaps even our neuralinks, depending on the exact timing of this revolution's completion, and upon this hearty forum we will witness thread after thread, post after post, praising 4E, shouting its many glories, sending selfies artfully composed with 4E books (no essentials, 4E was perfect at launch as was, or so this future hints).
 

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Indeed, and over time their numbers shall swell. Eventually we will wake up and open our phones or tablets or computers or perhaps even our neuralinks, depending on the exact timing of this revolution's completion, and upon this hearty forum we will witness thread after thread, post after post, praising 4E, shouting its many glories, sending selfies artfully composed with 4E books (no essentials, 4E was perfect at launch as was, or so this future hints).
Essentials is the Into Darkness point?
 

Indeed, and over time their numbers shall swell. Eventually we will wake up and open our phones or tablets or computers or perhaps even our neuralinks, depending on the exact timing of this revolution's completion, and upon this hearty forum we will witness thread after thread, post after post, praising 4E, shouting its many glories, sending selfies artfully composed with 4E books (no essentials, 4E was perfect at launch as was, or so this future hints).

Which thread is this again? In any case, another MM cover idea could be various humanoids with 4e books wailing on demons and devils trying to use 3.x and 5e books as shields.
 

Which thread is this again? In any case, another MM cover idea could be various humanoids with 4e books wailing on demons and devils trying to use 3.x and 5e books as shields.
The DMG is someone taking a sword emblazoned with 5E raising a horde of 3.x zombies -- threats to our 4E-viruted heroes.
 


I'm Gen X, and I'm a little taken aback by the heavy emphasis on the cartoon characters, as I really don't consider that cartoon to have much to do at all with the D&D game. It was a popular children's cartoon from 1983-85. It came and went. 95% of the characters in it never really appeared before or since that two-year period, until Wild Beyond the Witchlight (2021) and a Brazilian car commercial. It just doesn't feel like a particularly key or seminal part of D&D history to me. It's not "the beginning of D&D". It wasn't the "peak" of late 70s-early 80s D&D popularity (probably 1982). It just wasn't, tbh, a defining moment for the game.

It would feel fine to me to have ONE character from the show on the cover of the DMG. THREE - and no characters from any other sources - feels weird. Not the crime of the century, but feels like an odd choice to me.

I also watched the cartoon occasionally as a kid (I would have been age 7-9 when it aired) and didn't care for it. I was reading The Hobbit and watching Doctor Who at that age, so the cartoon just seemed kinda simple and dumb (and I know that makes me a child snob). So even though I'm exactly the target demo for the cover, it just doesn't resonate with me.

That said, the actual reason I don't like the cover is strictly because of the art style. I do like the interior art from the new PHB that features the kids from the show in a discernable dungeon entrance setting that looks like it could happen in a D&D session.
 

I'm Gen X, and I'm a little taken aback by the heavy emphasis on the cartoon characters, as I really don't consider that cartoon to have much to do at all with the D&D game. It was a popular children's cartoon from 1983-85. It came and went. 95% of the characters in it never really appeared before or since that two-year period, until Wild Beyond the Witchlight (2021) and a Brazilian car commercial. It just doesn't feel like a particularly key or seminal part of D&D history to me. It's not "the beginning of D&D". It wasn't the "peak" of late 70s-early 80s D&D popularity (probably 1982). It just wasn't, tbh, a defining moment for the game.

It would feel fine to me to have ONE character from the show on the cover of the DMG. THREE - and no characters from any other sources - feels weird. Not the crime of the century, but feels like an odd choice to me.

I also watched the cartoon occasionally as a kid (I would have been age 7-9 when it aired) and didn't care for it. I was reading The Hobbit and watching Doctor Who at that age, so the cartoon just seemed kinda simple and dumb (and I know that makes me a child snob). So even though I'm exactly the target demo for the cover, it just doesn't resonate with me.

That said, the actual reason I don't like the cover is strictly because of the art style. I do like the interior art from the new PHB that features the kids from the show in a discernable dungeon entrance setting that looks like it could happen in a D&D session.
It's not for you. Like Vecna, its for a generation that never experienced early D&D so they can discover the past for themselves.
 

It's not for you. Like Vecna, its for a generation that never experienced early D&D so they can discover the past for themselves.
That’s another one - Vecna was just never really a thing except for people saying “what if you got the eye and hand of Vecna?”

But at least Vecna makes sense now - thanks to Stranger Things and Critical Role, D&D has an outright boogeyman. They have their Emperor Palpatine now.
 


I'm Gen X, and I'm a little taken aback by the heavy emphasis on the cartoon characters, as I really don't consider that cartoon to have much to do at all with the D&D game. It was a popular children's cartoon from 1983-85. It came and went. 95% of the characters in it never really appeared before or since that two-year period, until Wild Beyond the Witchlight (2021) and a Brazilian car commercial. It just doesn't feel like a particularly key or seminal part of D&D history to me. It's not "the beginning of D&D". It wasn't the "peak" of late 70s-early 80s D&D popularity (probably 1982). It just wasn't, tbh, a defining moment for the game.

It would feel fine to me to have ONE character from the show on the cover of the DMG. THREE - and no characters from any other sources - feels weird. Not the crime of the century, but feels like an odd choice to me.

I also watched the cartoon occasionally as a kid (I would have been age 7-9 when it aired) and didn't care for it. I was reading The Hobbit and watching Doctor Who at that age, so the cartoon just seemed kinda simple and dumb (and I know that makes me a child snob). So even though I'm exactly the target demo for the cover, it just doesn't resonate with me.

That said, the actual reason I don't like the cover is strictly because of the art style. I do like the interior art from the new PHB that features the kids from the show in a discernable dungeon entrance setting that looks like it could happen in a D&D session.

They had a DVD release with a mini book that’s stated everyone back in 3rd ed.

They popped up sort of in Baldurs Gate 2. Not to mention in D&D comics a few times.

They’ve never completely gone away.


Plus they introduced me to D&D before I even knew what D&D was.
 

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