Area of Effect/Size Printable Templates?

Festivus

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For effects like Enlarge Person, I went to a local craft store and bought wooden disks in 2", 3" and 4". For flying, I use old chessex dice tubes and put the fig on top. For invisible/concealed/etc, I put the dice tube over the fig.

For area of effect stuff I use the Steel Squire templates, I really like them. I first tried to make my own but it's tougher to do than it looks. I gave up and bought em :)
 

Nail

Visitor
frankthedm said:
Steel Sqwire decided to market that idea.
Due to frankthedm's comments (along with others), I've just purchaced the "Skirmish" pack of the Steel Squire spell AoE templates. Thanks, guys! I can't wait for them to arrive......

Anyone found lots of use for the 40 ft radius one? Thinking back on 6 years of gaming, it seems like Entangle is the only one that comes up often enough to care......
 
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frankthedm

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Nail said:
Anyone found lots of use for the 40 ft diameter one? Thinking back on 6 years of gaming, it seems like Entangle is the only one that comes up often enough to care......
Good sir, entangle has a 40' radius, fireball has a 40' diameter.
 

Nail

Visitor
Doh. Mis-typed; meant radius.

Steel Squire has a 10' r., 20' r., and 40 ft r. ...I did not get the 40 ft r. Has it been something you (any of you!) use alot?
 

frankthedm

Visitor
[IMaGel]http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7273/entangleqd2.th.gif[/IMaGel] Oh, here is an entangle template...

When Imageshack gives a URL, the default link leads to pop ups. The actual image should have its URL at the bottom of the imageshack upload page. [or in the image properties]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6086/cone1iceif5.jpg

The Thumbnail is almost always the image name with a ".th" befor the ".filetype"

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6086/cone1iceif5.th.jpg

The pop up free way to link the cone of cold image would be

{URL=http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6086/cone1iceif5.jpg}{IMG}http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6086/cone1iceif5.th.jpg{/IMG}{/URL}

switching { } for [ ] of course.

Kae'Yoss said:
The [imager] and [imagel] tages can be used in place of the
 
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mvincent

Explorer
Nail said:
I did not get the 40 ft r. Has it been something you (any of you!) use alot?
I've never had need for it, but it could possibly be used for:
Torch light (shadowy illumination)
Blasphemy
Transmute Metal to Wood
Circle of Death
Detect Scrying
Dictum
False Vision
Holy Word
Mage's Disjunction
Meteor Swarm
Prayer
Undeath to Death
Wail of the Banshee
Word of Chaos
Light
Continual Flame
 
frankthedm said:
Steel Sqwire decided to market that idea.
Too bad they didn't learn from the company that had the nifty idea of stamp pads for common terrain/furnishngs. Price is everything, and Steel Sqwire is too costly to ultimately be successful. They also need to enable customers to buy what they want rather than be stuck with pre-packs. I'd be interested in four 10-ft. radius wires, but there's no way I'd ever consider buying four sets (at $15-20 a pop!) for them.

Cool idea though.
 

Nail

Visitor
Ogrork the Mighty said:
They also need to enable customers to buy what they want rather than be stuck with pre-packs. I'd be interested in four 10-ft. radius wires, but there's no way I'd ever consider buying four sets (at $15-20 a pop!) for them.
That's my complaint too. For example, those 20' r. look useful....but I'll only get one with my Skirmish pack. :(
 

mvincent

Explorer
Ogrork the Mighty said:
Too bad they didn't learn from the company that had the nifty idea of stamp pads for common terrain/furnishngs.
Agreed. Those sucked for the price.

They also need to enable customers to buy what they want rather than be stuck with pre-packs.
Agreed. I bought my 20' radius templates when Steel Sqwire was selling them individually and I was much happier about it. I don't like what Paizo did here.

Steel Sqwire is too costly to ultimately be successful.
It technically already is successful (as far as game aids go). The templates will likely always cater to a fringe market, but I don't see them going away.

Either way: knowing what I know, I would still pay for the whole pack just to get the 20' radius template (in fact, I might still, even though I have two already). I just wish they could be used for showing threatened areas.
 

Nail

Visitor
mvincent said:
I bought my 20' radius templates when Steel Sqwire was selling them individually and I was much happier about it. I don't like what Paizo did here.
I think we all know why they "packaged" them though: higher profit margin.
 

MarkB

Hero
Excellent images, Frank. Any chance of a few illustrative examples of Line effects at various angles? They can tend to be tricky to work out visually.
 

mvincent

Explorer
A few ideas:
1) Print these on transparencies (to make them sturdier, nicer looking, and you can maybe see things below them)
2) Print them with an extra 2" on several sides, which can be folded down to create a 'table'. This should allow you to place it on the battlemap without disturbing (most of) the figures (and makes it so you don't have to 'eyeball' where the template covers... which kinda defeats its purpose).
3) There is a type of 'koosh ball' toy that looks like a mass of long tentacles. Mounting a clear, 20' radius template on top of one of these could be a fun/useful item for gamers that frequently use the Dark Tentacles spell.
 

Thurbane

Visitor
frankthedm said:
I actually dislike grids, measuring much more preferable for my tastes. But the grid system makes for easier rules discussions.
Same here - the templates I use are made with a compass i.e. circular. Causes a few minor problems with the battlemat grid, but I prefer this to square fireballs...
 

frankthedm

Visitor
MarkB said:
Excellent images, Frank. Any chance of a few illustrative examples of Line effects at various angles? They can tend to be tricky to work out visually.
There is a slight problem there. Besides the problem of how thick the line should be [same width of the lines that exist between squares is my guess], the text and the example{and the text in that example] of lines in the PHB do not agree on what defines a line!

 

Klaus

Visitor
Fiery Dragon's BattleBox has "spell counters" for several effects. There's fireball, lighting bolt, 30' cones, 30' radius, burning hands, phantom steed, Bigby's Hand and Fist, flaming sphere, generic lines and more.

On top of that you get a combat-tracking pad, Action Cards detailing several combat options (Grappling, Sunder, Overrun, Turn Undead, Throw Splash Weapon and more), a mini d20 and a booklet detailing two new optional rules: Alert Factor (to track the level of combat readiness of a building or lair) and the Pursuit System (for long overland chases, akin to the Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli vs. Uruk-Hai chase in The Two Towers).

The revised BattleBox also includes Size/Reach cheat sheets.
 

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