Battlestar Galactica:Season 2; Part 4 NSCR/8.5.05

[Truth Seeker]

Storm Raven, please respect my request, that is on Page one.

Thank You.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Yeah. Because criticizing your opinion is a personal insult. Please. Learn the difference between the two and then get back to me.

And I'm better off away from these threads? Why? So you don't have to deal with the holes in your theories concerning the show?

Read page one, thread one.

Again Thank You.

 

[Storm Raven]

Storm Raven, please respect my request, that is on Page one.

Thank You.

I will, if eliptic does.

 

[Storm Raven]

Read page one, thread one.

Again Thank You.

Wait a second. I post in a topic on topic, on point. Responding directly to the post I quoted, discussing nothing but the content of the show. Quoting the entire post to which I responded (so there's none of this "misquoting" nonsense). There were no personal insults (not that I used personal insults in the previous thread). No flames. A completely innocuous post in which I merely stated a different opinion concerning the show.

Elliptic shows up and attacks me. Not my post. Not the ideas I put forward. And somehow I'm the bad guy? I think that something is awry here. And it isn't my post that's the problem.

 

[Truth Seeker]

I will, if eliptic does.

Then apply this simple rule...if the cause is known, just ignore it. And I do mean that...literally.

And my request was meant for everyone, no one was named in it.

Now, either chill and be constructive, or don't post. This goes to anyone.

If making a point is getting too serious...then go on to something else.

This is not a place on making points *like a score*, and this bares repeating, this is a fiction story, with side elements of truth.

Treat it as such.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Wait a second. I post in a topic on topic, on point. Responding directly to the post I quoted, discussing nothing but the content of the show. Quoting the entire post to which I responded (so there's none of this "misquoting" nonsense). There were no personal insults (not that I used personal insults in the previous thread). No flames. A completely innocuous post in which I merely stated a different opinion concerning the show.

Elliptic shows up and attacks me. Not my post. Not the ideas I put forward. And somehow I'm the bad guy? I think that something is awry here. And it isn't my post that's the problem.

Me tricky that way

 

[Truth Seeker]

Oh great you're back. Same person who got the last thread locked thanks to your personal insults. You are better off away from these threads.

*feeling like a teacher* The detention room for you too....

 

[WizarDru]

It was mentioned in the Miniseries that there were 12 Human-Form Cylon models.

I was under the impression they said there were 12 models, but it was a vague answer that could have meant 12 models of cylon TOTAl, or 12 human-models. The discussion between Baltar and Six included the context of discussing the old cylons (from the previous war), and didn't really make it clear.

However, it's most likely that the interpetation of 12 human models is likely. But it's still conjecture, I think.

 

[The_Universe]

And, to be perfectly blunt, that was a mistake. If the cylons hadn't been pulling their punches, he would have gotten his head handed to him.

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Once again, putting the fleet at risk should have been fatal, if the cylons weren't pulling their punches.

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The sum total of her "recklessness" has been to use a single captured piece of equipment to send a single person to Caprica. A piece of equipment that wasn't actually needed for the mission for which Adama insisted it was critical. This is as "reckless" as endangering the entire fleet to look for Starbuck?

How do we know the Cylons are pulling their punches? Did you and Ron Moore share a drink in which he revealed their otherwise mysterious motivations and methods?

I doubt it.

And since we *don't* know if that's the case, we can't say ("to be perfectly blunt") that it was a mistake or not. It certainly seems to have worked out well enough, which would tend to indicate that it was not a mistake at all.

As to Roslin's recklessness, I think I can point to the whole situation with Zareck, the Kamala Root, the secrecy of her cancer, and the fact that she chose Baltar as a vice president despite the fact that everyone *knows* he's crazy as further instances of her less than cautious nature.

If you don't like Adama, that's fine. But don't paint pictures in the air and then tell me that's the way it's always been. In the land of speculation, ain't no man king.

 

[WizarDru]

As to Roslin's recklessness, I think I can point to the whole situation with Zareck, the Kamala Root, the secrecy of her cancer, and the fact that she chose Baltar as a vice president despite the fact that everyone *knows* he's crazy as further instances of her less than cautious nature.

I don't think they're pulling their punches.

I also don't see recklessness in MOST of those actions. The Chamala root...well, that's calculated risk, but I could see that as being reckless. Everyone does NOT know Baltar as crazy; eccentric, yes...but only those folks who know him personally...and they think of him as an oddball genius. By reputation (and previous media attention on Caprica) he's a helluva guy. I'm not sure what you mean by the 'whole situation with Zareck'...unless you mean the prez's distrust of him and moves to block him. Considering the man was willing to let his head be blown off to unseat the government 12 DAYS after the near-extinction of mankind...I'd say she's not crazy for being suspicious of him.

Mind you, Roslin doesn't see her actions as reckless, but of preserving the stability of the fleet. You could argue that she's become too convinced of her own righteousness...but that hardly puts her as unique in this show, don't you think?